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not heard that one myself and asfaik bob jackson aren't able to label bikes as hetchins since the late 70's. They just use the curvey tubing still on there own bikes...
it wouldn't surprise me if they went under, i found them unhelpful and lacking in customer service, the guys at woodrup however seem great, met one of the owners the other week at the york show and he was lovely, had some interested 953 frames on display and seems to have a healthy interest in the art of it and the joy of riding rather than making cash