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@Ramsaye
This is all great stuff and opinions are wonderful things. You do all realise that nothing you say in this thread will have any effect on the people who you are arguing with here because they have the opposite view you?
I will lay off the Eric Pickles visual imagery so you can all squabble a little bit more but shout when you are ready as right now I am visualising him and Prescott naked mud wrestling and I know you will all enjoy it when I share that with you.