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  • Just giving my opinion based on what I've seen. Older ones seem to be well finished, the new one I saw was not, and for that reason (plus their current customer service rep) I'd be reluctant to give them any money.

    But I guess £413 total for an 853 f&f sounds like good value.

    As for tubing choice, if you're going for a quill stem set up I would t worry too much about it.

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