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  • +1

    modern pinar's are techincally great machines, but somehow, I just have absolutely no fancy for one.
    probably because everytime I've seen one been ridden, its generally a middle aged+ 'born again' rider who used to dabble in road in their teens, and now wants to re-live those thrills by dropping £3k+ on 'my bike is more exotic than yours' and 'my bike has t3h carbon fibrz to make up for my gutt' weight savings.
    there-go, un-cool.

    Then beat him at the lights and stop the politics of envy.

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