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@Rodolfo
^^"non-integrated they are".. Still no prob right? Crown race, bearing, cup kinda= crown race, bearing, integrated cup frame.. I have a Surly fork (which normally has a non-integrated headset) on my beaterframe with an integrated headset.. No love between headtube and fork crown, but it works, although it looks proper silly.. Which what I was aiming for in the end for theft proofness..