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@Bobbo
Actually I was trying, obviously unsuccessfully in your opinion, to use humour to point out why I think all of the criticism on this thread is unnecessary. The guy has set up his own business, fair play to him. He has made mistakes, we all do that, he has also worked hard to try to turn his image around. From what I understand his bikes are getting better yet, some on here are not willing to forgive him his earlier mistakes, I find this attitude puerile which is what I was trying to reflect in my post. I also find it upsetting that people are criticising the guy because he is trying something different, with the high pro for example, just because you do not find it aesthetically pleasing does not make it wrong, if the frame geometry made the bike unsafe then yes point it out, but otherwise give the guy a break he is trying make his way in a market that is dominated by big names who don't really like competition and work hard to stifle it. You don't have to buy his bikes but it would be nice if people didn't slag him off and let him get on with it.