Touring Equipment

It'll be one of the ones with a map attachment. Not sure on size yet.

Oh and this is the one I've been looking at, not too expensive;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280697919630&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_896wt_1163

I know this is going to sound like a stupid question... but you know that won't be waterproof right?

I hate to sound like an idiot but I didn't even think of that. I was just under the impression that as long as the maps are dry it should be OK. But looking at it closer I think water could get to them too.

And - depending on the mounting system - it can also sag badly when loaded.

Oh and this is the one I've been looking at, not too expensive;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280697919630&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_896wt_1163

When you said 'not too expensive', I though you mean like £20.

Did not realised you mean it'll cost as much as a pints in a trendy london pubs.

I just used an Ortlieb Ultimate 5 Classic (7 litre) on a week long 'credit card' tour on my carbon road bike (the only other luggage used was my Archie's Grobags saddlebag which performed amazingly - nice one scott).

The bar-bag is worth the money because it holds its position even when fairly heavily loaded, is stiff and doesn't sag when fitted properly. It does inevitably effect the handling of the bike noticeably for the worse but this is manageable and I rode with it up some big passes and some long days and it was fine. Definately nice to take it off and ride a bike without a bar bag at the end though!
Remember that with Ortlieb barbags you have to buy the map case separately (another 15/20 quid on top) which is a pain.

In my case it would be also a foam lining for the camera. Another extra expense.

Can't speak to the carbon aspect, but I've found bags on the front always feel better when supported from underneath in addition to attachment at the bars. If you're carrying less than a couple of kilos (including bag) an unsupported bag wouldn't be too bad. Shape-wise, think hot dog bun vs. hamburger bun if you do some kind of DIY bag off the front. Kind of like this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/vo-baguette-saddle-or-handlebar-bag.html

In my case it would be also a foam lining for the camera. Another extra expense.

I'm contemplating taking my 5D on the Dunwich Dynamo - I've got padded camera bags I think with 1 lens I should be ok.

Found the ortleib ultimate 5 bar bag is fine handling wise when at decent speeds - but at slow speeds can make it pretty erratic, swinging the front around alot. I learnt this to my detriment and nearly got smashed by a passing motorbike whilst going up a hill

The Carradice bar bags are a worthy alternative to the Ortlieb. And you get the map holder thrown in.

The other I can think of is the Altura Dryline Bar Bag, a bit expensive but price match it down to £40 would make it look rather decent (included map holder).

As Mr Tom said, the Carradice is a worthly option, especially their Carradura one.

I got this.. MSX CLS 55, 7ltire capacity, map holder, for 45 euro's posted.. (mind you I'm in the Netherlands, and got them from a Dutch company..)

Has anyone know of a quality rear rack which is quite long, or rather one that sets the panniers quite far back? It's just because on my 80's Dawes Galaxy I'm constantly clipping my heels on my Ortleibs, and this is with the rack as far back as it will go, and the panniers adjusted that way as well.

My dad runs Marathons Plus's on Mavic open sport rims, laced to shimano xt hubs it think. He doesn't seem to have too much trouble. On the subject of M/P's watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4&feature=player_embedded

No trouble with Rigida rims. Not sure which rims are they - they look like DP-18, but the outside of the rim is ca. 22mm.

YouTube - ‪Schwalbe Marathon‬‏

The axle mounted racks (for bikes with disc brakes) look like they keep the rack further back and upwards, not tried one out though, this is just from looking at the pictures. You might be able to buy the axle mounting hardware seperatly and use it on your current rack.

tubus make a rack designed to improve heel clearance.

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b38s79p154

it also depend on the panniers, some of them are adjustable so you can set it as far back as possible, even if your frame have a tighter clearance.

Hi, sorry to post in this forum (new so can't post in classifieds) - if anyone's looking for a Tubus Fly rack in stainless steel, I have two for sale. Brand new, £60 each.

I live in Brixton and work in Herne Hill, btw - happy if people want to have a look before buying. I have one mounted on my old steel Bianchi

That appears to be a higher price then when buying one "new-new"?

Hi Bjorn, the stainless steel version is more expensive - for example £82 at Brixton Cycles. Cheapest I can find online is £66. I got mine from Germany, and am selling at cost (actually a fraction below considering delivery!)

^ Also the cheaper silver painted ones look pretty naff in real life imo- Might aswell get a tortec. I'd go for stainless everytime

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