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Ah, somebody opened the Pandora box again! So here is my comments to clarify a few points:
Prancer, the bike that you saw was a display bike on a raised stand and clearly not designed for people to try out. It was merely to show case the new frames and forks coming out.
As for the geared machines, yes we started researching on them and we’ll take as long as it takes to produce them and make sure that we get them just right. If you want to give us some direct constructive feed back and what you want to see in a bike like that then we would love to hear from you.
Malaysian, our bikes cannot reach 819 pounds unless you select mudguards, helmet, light and a Kryptonite Dlock which you have, so I don’t know why you have to deceive people when we are just trying to run a genuine business. Our bikes start at £485.00 and obviously if you add a Brooks saddle and a £180 track wheelset the price will increase considerably.
Sushigeezer, I am not claiming that our wheels are H+Son, I am just stating that our rims are made in the same factory. And considering BLB will charge you 130 pounds for 2 rims alone then we feel the prices of our rims are reasonable.
As for the Ciao, I am glad it generated so much debate. Clearly the aesthetic aspect is something personal (although I used to get quite a few looks when riding it around town), but I will say that after going through a lot of tweaking (the version on the Evening Standard was our first prototype, which is why it looked different), it is by far one of the most comfortable bike I have ridden and this is the general feedback I got from everyone that tried the bike out.
The visibility is brilliant, the upright position feels way more comfortable than a more aggressive posture, and the handling is super smooth.
What I still don’t understand is whether the people that call £650 ‘overpriced’ for a double butted 4130 build, realise how much effort and money is involved in designing a bike from scratch and getting it into production (CAD drawings, testing to ensure the product complies with British Standards, prototyping, etc..).
And Nhat, RPM and everydoby else that likes to comment on our bikes without having ridden one, feel free to pop by the shop and try one out, then you will be in a position to make an accurate judgement and not defame companies trying to run a decent business.
Mdcc_tester, the Ciao is supposed to be our ‘hi-pro’ model but I am in the process of developing a ‘lo-pro’ which I am hoping to see in production by next Summer.
And here it is an early design for those that want to give us some constructive feedback:
That’s it for now.