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@VanUden
Hmmm, prices for the Ciao are going to start from £650 and the frame will be double-butted in chromoly 4130. Now proper 4130 when double-butted in terms of weight is very close to Reynolds 531 it just doesn't have the same anecdotal kudos. In terms of price personally I think it's a little steep but then it compares well to say a Gary Fisher Triton or a Genesis Flyer both in terms of frame material and price.