• And we suggested, with various degrees of sarcasm, that he should start with an OTP. Nobody gets their ideal bike first time, so he might as well get on something which is ready to ride, since riding is the only way to find out what you really want from a bike.

    Dunno, can have a good search around here and sheldon for tips, buy up parts on ebay, and classifieds here, ask the right questions and end up with a bike you're very happy with, and with a lot more character than an OTP, and for about the same money.

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