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• #33427
I know. I always need a pump to stay hard.
Also this:http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/unisex-vintage-dutch-replica-bicycle-2-months-old/79684764
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• #33429
What could possibly go wrong?
looks totally 100% safe
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• #33430
someone here get: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310320763652 ??
crazy bargain ... would've bid on it but my smartphone didn't want to put a bid in.
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• #33431
Yeah I was watching that but epically failed in reading the description. Thought the auction was for just the frame. Oh dear.
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• #33433
Hi guys so I love this frame soo much, have been looking for one for agers. I thought because of the damage it wouldn't go for more than £300.
Does anyone think this frame can be ridden with damage like this?
My thought were that I would have to get a frame builder to put a new top and bottom tube on it and it would be an awesome project to do. what are everyones thoughts? -
• #33434
you should email him and ask for better pics and description of the damage...the fact that the title says damaged should suggest that its properly damaged.
but the photos, it kind of looks ok - though the top tube does look like it curves a bit randomly.
i just spotted that it's already at £510 - i'd suggest it's not worth the punt
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• #33435
read the rest of the thread, theres been plenty of talk about it...
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• #33436
Hi guys so I love this frame soo much, have been looking for one for agers. I thought because of the damage it wouldn't go for more than £300.
Does anyone think this frame can be ridden with damage like this?
My thought were that I would have to get a frame builder to put a new top and bottom tube on it and it would be an awesome project to do. what are everyones thoughts?it would probably cost about £200 to replace those tubes, and then you'd have to get a respray, so probably costing near enough another £100. also the chrome on the lugs may get ruined by the heat, so you'd have to get that done as well if you wanted it.. probably not a very good project
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• #33437
^^ an undamaged one of those went for about £400 on the bay recently to give you an idea...paint job wasn't good but it was in good nick otherwise
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• #33439
I had the top tube and down tube replaced on my road machine some years ago and regardless of how good the framebuilder is, reheating the joints causes the lugs to become brittle( a metallurgist or engineer will tell you it is to do with the grain structure of the steel) and whilst it should be fine for a few years, it is likely to fail after a few years. Mine went on the lug joining the down tube to the head tube just after I had been descending from the top of the Malverns and, thankfully, I was given some pre warning that something was amiss i.e. the bike started to flex a lot!!!
Should remember too that, because the original forks will have been wrecked, you will have to replace those too - lets say another £50. Also as it is a Lo Pro, are they 700C, 650C or 24"? So by the time you have bought a dodgy frame for £500, replaced the tubes for £200, resprayed(minus chromium plating) for £100 and bought a matching pair of forks for £50 you have a total of £850.
Not sure if you are interested in the frame for the Colnago name or for the geometry of the frame i.e. sloping top tube and curved seat tube, but alternatively you could:-
- Buy an interesting British built frame from the 80's or 90's which has usually been built by the guy who has got his name on the down tube and who has, most probably, built it with the required skill and lavished it with due care and attention during the build;
- Go on a frame building course for a week and come away with your own tailor made machine.
I would suggest either of the above is much better than splashing out lot of money for a repaired frame. Sorry if I am missing something but those are my thoughts and I hope this helps.
- Buy an interesting British built frame from the 80's or 90's which has usually been built by the guy who has got his name on the down tube and who has, most probably, built it with the required skill and lavished it with due care and attention during the build;
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• #33440
Hipster tax innit. They will probably buy it and ride it as it is.
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• #33441
if you're after a big name, undamaged lo pro then maybe take a look at the merckx on this page
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• #33442
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• #33443
is the fact that his including fixie tool in sale makes it so expensive?
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• #33444
No fastback or wraparound stays, so it's unlikely to be a particularly exotic Holdsworth. Lack of cut-out lugs too suggests it's nothing particularly special. I managed to build a Holdsworth Pro with full high-end Campag and Cinelli drapery for not too much the wrong side of £500, so this is madness. £1300 for what is essentially then a reasonably nice fixeh build on a well-painted 531 frame is absurd, especially when you look at how much vintage, 'Pagged-out, italian sex that sort of dorr will get you from a decent seller.
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• #33445
Planet X carbon time trial frameset £60 BIN
someone got the epics bargain there. listed and sold within 3minutes!
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• #33446
I had the top tube and down tube replaced on my road machine some years ago and regardless of how good the framebuilder is, reheating the joints causes the lugs to become brittle( a metallurgist or engineer will tell you it is to do with the grain structure of the steel) and whilst it should be fine for a few years, it is likely to fail after a few years. Mine went on the lug joining the down tube to the head tube just after I had been descending from the top of the Malverns and, thankfully, I was given some pre warning that something was amiss i.e. the bike started to flex a lot!!!
Should remember too that, because the original forks will have been wrecked, you will have to replace those too - lets say another £50. Also as it is a Lo Pro, are they 700C, 650C or 24"? So by the time you have bought a dodgy frame for £500, replaced the tubes for £200, resprayed(minus chromium plating) for £100 and bought a matching pair of forks for £50 you have a total of £850.
Not sure if you are interested in the frame for the Colnago name or for the geometry of the frame i.e. sloping top tube and curved seat tube, but alternatively you could:-
- Buy an interesting British built frame from the 80's or 90's which has usually been built by the guy who has got his name on the down tube and who has, most probably, built it with the required skill and lavished it with due care and attention during the build;
- Go on a frame building course for a week and come away with your own tailor made machine.
I would suggest either of the above is much better than splashing out lot of money for a repaired frame. Sorry if I am missing something but those are my thoughts and I hope this helps.
Or just go to the sale thread and look at Hilary's name-dropper-friendly Lo-Pro bargains.
- Buy an interesting British built frame from the 80's or 90's which has usually been built by the guy who has got his name on the down tube and who has, most probably, built it with the required skill and lavished it with due care and attention during the build;
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• #33447
Bargain if you live nearby:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120732010582&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123 -
• #33448
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260793066856&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Again, too blasted small for me. could be a pinarello bargain....perhaps.
'Tyres can hold a pump without deflating'
This is worth seeing for £15 surely?