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    -Cycle groups have "failed" to bring about mass cycling. Only seperate infrastructure can do this.

    "Separate" infrastructure has not produced mass cycling anywhere. The North continental towns with freaky cycle modal shares had freaky modal shares prior to "separate" infrastructure. Introduction of "separate" infrastructure has not brought high cycling modal share to locations with a low modal share to start with.

    The autumn of the Bicycle Master Plan: after the plans, the
    products, Ton Welleman, Dutch Ministry of Transport, Velo-city
    conference Basle, 1995:

    Since 1990, the total length of cycle paths has increased to almost
    19,000 km, generally speaking double the length in 1980. (The
    Netherlands has around 108,000 km paved and asphalted roads,
    including 2200 km of expressways). Besides cycle paths, there were
    also investments in roundabouts, reconstructions of junctions and
    pedestrian/cyclist crossings, cycle tunnels and bridges and parking
    facilities for cyclists; totalling an estimated 1.5 billion
    guilders. The costs were split up into approximately fifty percent
    for the municipalities, 15% for the provinces and the remainder for
    the national government.

    Results: In 1994, the total distance cycled was 12.9 billion km,
    compared with 12.8 billion in 1990. (The number of km travel-led by
    car was 125 billion in 1990 and 129 billion in 1994). Consequently:
    Expansion and improvement of the infrastructure does not necessarily
    increase the use of bicycles.
    Another thing to note is that in the locations with high cycle modal share, the cycle traffic substitutes walking trips and short public transit trips. So it's highly unlikely that existence of "separate" facilities will get motorists out of their cars.

    -Cycle training is like Helmet promotion in that it suggests thst cycling is not safe without training.
    "Separate" infrastructure suggests that cycling is not safe without "separate" infrastucure.

    -"Vehicular Cyclists" are a cult like group that resist any and all attempts to introduse infrastructure on the dutch model
    Belief in cycle facilities is in fact very religion like and escapes all rational arguments of real world effects of so called facilities.

    -Cycle training ameloriates the conditions of on road riding and as such collaborates with the maintainance of the status quo with respect the preeminence of the car
    .
    Kicking cyclists out of the roadway into inferior facilities strengthens the preeminence of the car more than anything else.

    For my self I will say that I became a cycle trainer as a response to my frustration with cycle campagining... The way I see it, we are just quietly helping those who wish to ride to do so as well as encouraging new generations. I only read Cyclecraft after about 30 years cycling in London and I could see, at once, the value of the advise therin.
    Very true that explaining this to someone who hasn't walked the walk, ridden the snake, felt the force is utterly hopeless.

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