Which Clipless pedals?

Buy shoes that fit, not shoes that people tell you to buy. Yes, that means you might actually have to try some on..

Yeah cycling shoes vary massively in fit.

Skinny feet - Shimano, Diadora....
Skinny to medium - Sidi, mavic....
Medium - Lake, Time...
Medium to fat - Specialized...
Fat - Northwave...

Even then the fit will be felt differently by different feet shapes. Add to that the huge variation in size definition (I'd be a 45 Sidi, or a 42.5 Bont, FFS).

Try before you buy!

Pop into Evans and try out these bargins (and then buy online)...
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/bg-expert-mtb-shoes-ec017519
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/mavic/tempo-mtb-shoe-ec018331

I have quite wide and flat feet and find Sidis fit me well (normal not MEGA).. t

Pop into Evans and try out these bargins (and then buy online)...
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/bg-expert-mtb-shoes-ec017519
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/mavic/tempo-mtb-shoe-ec018331

Or get them to price match. I was suprised how easy it was to get them to price match their £53 105 SPD-SL pedals with Ribble at £35

I have quite wide and flat feet and find Sidis fit me well (normal not MEGA).. t

Felt narrow to me. But there you go.

I'm pretty determined to get some Bont 'moldable' shoes, As even my Northwave feel narrow across the ball of my foot.

My Bont shoes are really really comfy. Not so impressed with the build quality though.

It'll be Bont or custom footbeds I reckon. i was keen on some S-works, but I'm worried my freak feet need special attention.

So what you guys think then definitely the Time ATAC XS over Speedplay Frogs? With either this type of shoe: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=25360 , http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/35/mp66w/shimano-mp66w-white-multi-purpose-shoe.html

I have quite wide and flat feet and find Sidis fit me well (normal not MEGA).. t

That's unusual. I went for them because they're thought to be narrow. They seemed narrower than Shimano. Seem strong too as they are perfect after 3 years.

Felt narrow to me. But there you go.

I think sidi also come in 'wide' version as well as normal.

I really like the Time Ataks, the drawbacks being that the springs squeak a bit which can be annoying at first, they are a bit heavy and there is a tiny amount of rotating resistance but not enough to ever notice when pedalling. The float is excellent and you know when you are clipped in because there is a satisfying clunk and I have never pulled out of the clips involuntarily. I have Speedplay zeros on one of my geared bikes and they are great with the best float but have downsides: hard to tell if you are clipped in initially and the shoes need "cafe covers" to protect the plates even for short distances.
As for shoes, I think mountain bike shoes suit fixies best as you are tending to use a fixie for general purpose riding which involves more on and off the bike.

I think sidi also come in 'wide' version as well as normal.

They do, but not in many of the ranges. At least the call them MEGA, I like that.

....'no my feet arent fat, they are mega'...

anyone got an opinion on my questions that ended up at the bottom of the last page about size of pedal/cleat and pressure on the ball of the foot?

have started to get 'hot' pressure points under the ball of my foot on longer rides on my road bike when wearing spd's and Dominators. I was going to go for Speedplays to go with my Egro Sidis (because of the float) - but does anyone have an opinion on whether using a pedal with a larger surface area (and cleat) like Look keo's etc would reduce the pressure on the ball of my foot?
I know that moving to a shoe with a full carbon sole will help significantly- but can the pedals/cleats make a difference too?

The cleat size/ bolt set-up, makes a massive difference.

Riding longish road rides, with constant pedaling, on spds. Is asking for hotspots. I thought this was mainly down to the small area covered by the two bolt system (the flex around the bolts causing heat). But having moved from eggbeaters to bebops on commuter. I've seriously reduced hotspot issues (both are two bolt). So cleat size can factor in too.

I have also run Quattros using both 2 and 3 bolt cleats, and noticed far less heat with the 3 bolt fastening. This was with different shoes though, so is'nt much use.

I'm still convinced that the bolt system is the most important factor though.

Have you considered getting some 4 bolt Road speedplays?

this is what I thought, but Scherrit seemed to think that having a carbon sole would make the most difference. I find it very hard to believe that having a larger contact area wouldn't decrease the pressure on the balls of my feet though - it's basic physics surely?*

*I know nothing about physics, not even a gcse in it

The force is the same regardless of area. So the pressure goes up when the area decreases. This leads to more flex in the sole which leads to heat.

A stiffer sole will flex less, and therefore transmitt less pressure, and not heat up so much.

When I tried a 3-bolt system, I felt 3 distinct pressure points, whereas with a 2-bolt shoe, because they're closer together, I think the focal point is wider, and therefore less acutely stabby, IYSWIM.

I'm probably in a minority of one with that opinion, but there you go.

That's interesting - think part of it is new cleats bedding into the sole again, but I'm also spending longer in the shoes than I ever have before and I think it's an accumulated thing.

Also I'm a lot bigger and heavier than you, Scarlett - not to mention all my Awesome Power*

*Disclaimer, my power is not awesome

anyone got any words of wisdom regarding campag pedals. I've got some (look like looks or SL's) I bought the Campag pro fit cleats BUT they only arrive with 2 screws and washer thingys's. You have to buy them seperately I think (£26.99).

Is this just me or is that ridiculous? cleats and screws etc for a total of £40!! what else would fit? Look cleats?

Thanks for your help guys!

Nice one, Cyril.

anyone got any words of wisdom regarding campag pedals. I've got some (look like looks or SL's) I bought the Campag pro fit cleats BUT they only arrive with 2 screws and washer thingys's. You have to buy them seperately I think (£26.99).

Is this just me or is that ridiculous? cleats and screws etc for a total of £40!! what else would fit? Look cleats?

Thanks for your help guys!

You have to buy both, but you only ever need to buy replacement cleats as the other parts don't wear out. It's a bit of a daft system to be honest.

Other cleats won't fit the Campag pedals.

like all campag product, it's a bit of a daft system to be honest.

No other groupsets will fit with campag ones.

ftfy

When I tried a 3-bolt system, I felt 3 distinct pressure points.

Interesting. Cant say I ever felt this.

Dan. Has Sherrit recommended moving your cleats just behind the balls of your feet?

apologies if this question is obvious, I'm new to clipless.

Will Nike road shoes take time cleats? I couldn't find anything online and the Nike website is hardly useful.

thanks

time cleats are normal 3 bolt right? Should be fine

What are the Sp***pl*y coffee covers like for walking about on roadie shoes?