Bike Anti-Porn - When Things Go Wrong

£320

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Getting the ball of your foot inline with the axle is what it's all about. I think it's supposed to be more efficient and controlled or something but I know that (like getting a good Q factor or cranks length) it just feels good.

but they are funking ugly. Anti-porn cares not for functionality and efficiency.

Also you can only buy 3 different cranksets for use with them.

Getting the ball of your foot inline with the axle is what it's all about. I think it's supposed to be more efficient and controlled or something but I know that (like getting a good Q factor or cranks length) it just feels good.

A) The hipsters using them will wear thick soled, chuncky, hipster shoes anyway
B) If you're not clipped in, you're not really using the parts of the stroke most affected by stack height.
C) They look shite.

..how are you meant to skid? where do my foot belts attach?

..how are you meant to skid? where do my foot belts attach? they don't come in plastic and for that reason i'm out.

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Shimano Oval.

Shimano Oval
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Ovally chain.

thanks all. new one on me.

thanks all. new one on me.

Don't get excited, it's a cheap and nasty chain meant to look "good" on cruiser bikes, not for proper bikes.

A) The hipsters using them will wear thick soled, chuncky, hipster shoes anyway
B) If you're not clipped in, you're not really using the parts of the stroke most affected by stack height.
C) They look shite.

A) There is nothing hip about MTBikers. If they're wearing cushioned soles it's for absorbing shock, and keeping the feet on the pedals.
B) A lot of UK MTBers would say if you can clip-in your not riding rough enough terrain, and that spds encourage 'lazy' pedalling. Cadences tend to be high. I know riders who have been told by instructors that the 1st upgrade to their trail bike should be thin, flat pedals.
C) They look shite? Time will tell if they can be durable but I don't think that's what you meant. I think you may be talking about pretty shapes and colours? If they work then they look *ri*ght.
D) Using letters feels like you've just used PowerPoint to try and sell me something. Roman numerals FTW.

Just being a bit arsey to be honest.

But it still seems a bit overkill to be so worried about stack height when most will use thick sole shoes, and pedal more intermitantly.

....and by look shite, I meant asthetically.

i. I know
ii. It's fine.

:)

Just read it back, and it sounded arrogant is all.

I'm also slightly ashamed that my HTC can spell better then I can*. Might have to give up posting from pc's.

(It also corrected 'your bike Dammit', to 'your bile Dammit', which was good stuff)

Lulz.
I was hoping for that.

C) They look shite? Time will tell if they can be durable but I don't think that's what you meant. I think you may be talking about pretty shapes and colours? If they work then they look *ri*ght.

They are ugly, like I said earlier that is what porn/anti is about.
I dont disagree with you on any other point than their suitability to be in this thread.

Also they are expensive and the limited crank choice is bad.

I would ride that on one if it had a matching front wheel and wide drops.
But atm it is nasty.

Have you all not seen modern DH bicycle? this is how thin they are nowadays;

I have a feeling it's more to do with clearance rather (pedal strike).

Apparenty the £320 price of the pedal *included *the cransket...

But those ^^ are shit as there is a bulge where the ball of your foot is meant to go. Just the same with Crank bro's most expensive flat pedal. If anything they should dip where the ball of your foot goes.

With these -
I'd give them a year until I knacker the bearing. They might be bloody expensive yady yady ya but I doubt they'd put you to that much usage in comparison to another pedal with 2 bearings.

Oh my, I just read their list of claims on the website. To say that they are clueless about the physics of balance would be an understatement.

I can't help thinking you're need to be pretty light on your feet to stand on a 3.5mm thick plate of anything, although they carefully shoot every photograph so that you have to sit and scratch your head a bit before you notice that they must be about 16mm thick where the platform blends to the axle, which means the platform is effectively canted outwards if you place your foot tight to the pedal boss, which, by the way, increases your Q-factor by about 20mm compared with normal pedals.

Ooh, I see it now. Not gonna be any good for your feet. I'm not hot on physics but I also bet I could bend those on a decent huck

I can't help thinking you're need to be pretty light on your feet to stand on a 3.5mm thick plate of anything, although they carefully shoot every photograph so that you have to sit and scratch your head a bit before you notice that they must be about 16mm thick where the platform blends to the axle, which means the platform is effectively canted outwards if you place your foot tight to the pedal boss, which, by the way, increases your Q-factor by about 20mm compared with normal pedals.[/QUOTE]

+1 MDCT. Plus if the benefit of these super skinny pedals is a couple of mms of lean either way, then they're going to be paid for by race teams or people who have money to burn. Ride budget Shimano spds and you'll get an extra 2 cms of lean. If you're riding fast enough for the flat pedals to be an issue for you, you can probably either afford them or you don't have to worry about it.

It's not the lean that matters. It's how close you can get the ball of your foot to the pivot.

We have had over a century of pedals which attempt to place the sole of the foot at or below the axis of rotation, ever since the Ramsey of 1898, and including Shimano DuraAce-AX among others. We've also had about as much time where professional cyclists have had a substantial material interest in exploiting marginal gains from improved equipment. That the market is still totally dominated by pedals which place the sole 10-20mm above the axis suggests to me that the claims of massively increased biomechanical efficiency which always accompany the launch of these zero or negative stack pedals simply don't stand up.