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  • I'm not going to deny their inextricability, but like most things, I think it's a 2-way process.

    Well, I am not 100% sure what you are saying, but if I could take the chance to make clear what I am saying, it would be that: when people like how things look, that is often met with a kind of priggish cynicism coupled with a certain masochism. . . which is at odd with how things actually work.

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