roger not to derail a perfectly polite and enquiring thread, but many of your questions and comments about the bikes you've mentioned can be found in some of the myriad OTP (off the peg) threads especially GA2G's excellent OTP list thread.
You haven't even bought the bike yet, and your imagining replacing all the bits. The best approach/most sensible is to find the bike you like the look of, is in your budget, and the size fits you (if you can take it for a test ride to make sure excellent, if not look up some of the sizing threads on here), then buy it, RIDE IT, then see what components you like, don't like, think are worth replacing, then do that over a period of months, years..
Most bikes at the price point you are talking about are much of a muchness, and it comes down to personal preference. Its a decision only you can make, and usually the myriad voices from here, with their different points of view will only muddy that decision..
forgot to add search box is up there to the right, really useful, this forum has answered pretty much all the questions you can ask and its all there if you take the time to read it..
roger not to derail a perfectly polite and enquiring thread, but many of your questions and comments about the bikes you've mentioned can be found in some of the myriad OTP (off the peg) threads especially GA2G's excellent OTP list thread.
You haven't even bought the bike yet, and your imagining replacing all the bits. The best approach/most sensible is to find the bike you like the look of, is in your budget, and the size fits you (if you can take it for a test ride to make sure excellent, if not look up some of the sizing threads on here), then buy it, RIDE IT, then see what components you like, don't like, think are worth replacing, then do that over a period of months, years..
Most bikes at the price point you are talking about are much of a muchness, and it comes down to personal preference. Its a decision only you can make, and usually the myriad voices from here, with their different points of view will only muddy that decision..
forgot to add search box is up there to the right, really useful, this forum has answered pretty much all the questions you can ask and its all there if you take the time to read it..
enjoy whichever bike you buy..