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• #727
It's not real time, as the bikes are not tracked, other than from docking station to docking station - the routes used are best guesses.
I realise it's not real time, just not sure what else to call it.
the time distance between each docking station determined the speed, also it follow the road of London, although some of them may have gone through a one way street and the like.
still as an estimation of the usage of boris bike, it's pretty interesting to watch.
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• #728
They are never going to fertilise the eggs like that
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• #729
When were these signs imposed?
They've been there since the construction of the contraflow bus lane.
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• #730
Apparently there's some kind of 'code' available that describes what all these mysterious symbols surrounding the 'highway' mean. You probably have to be connected with the masons to gain access to it. Or maybe a coven.
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• #731
Da vinci?
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• #732
Hypothetically, let's say a vandal were to remove the "no bikes" sign, would the police still be able to stop and fine cyclists?
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• #733
Some poor PCSO and copper were stationed on OKR by PC World junction
filling a quotadispensing justice tonight.
To be fair a white van who drifted about 10 metres past the stop line into the junction at red was being invited to discuss the error of his ways. -
• #734
Gone by the time I smashed it[/birnie] down the OKR past there.
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• #735
The sign would then be illegal and have no weight in law. There are very strict specifications for signage and the post it is on.
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• #736
It's interesting that people who should know better promulgate myths: cycling instructors for example telling people they can cycling in bus lanes even if the bus lane sign doesn't have a picture of a bike.
The sign in the picture is stricly wrong. The "No Cycling" sign is unnecessary and put there to try to help ignorant cyclists. The blue sign with the picture of the bus restricts the lane to buses only.
The fact that people think the picture of the cycle means "cycling ok" is a bit worrying. These signs are often on little alleys and such to stop cyclists.
I was taught this at school. I guess they don't bother now.
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• #737
I had a chat with a fellow cyclist and he said that he knew about those signs since he knows how to drive. I guess cyclists could do better if they go through some sort of a road theory test system to better equip their knowledge of the roads?
Do cycle training teach these things? I took a lesson a couple years back but we never got to talking about signage :O
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• #738
It's interesting that people who should know better promulgate myths: cycling instructors for example telling people they can cycling in bus lanes even if the bus lane sign doesn't have a picture of a bike.
The sign in the picture is stricly wrong. The "No Cycling" sign is unnecessary and put there to try to help ignorant cyclists. The blue sign with the picture of the bus restricts the lane to buses only.
The fact that people think the picture of the cycle means "cycling ok" is a bit worrying. These signs are often on little alleys and such to stop cyclists.
I was taught this at school. I guess they don't bother now.
All true. It's still absurd that the contraflow lane doesn't permit cycling.
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• #739
All true. It's still absurd that the contraflow lane doesn't permit cycling.
It's all absurd though isn't it. We have got a transport system (buses) that represents 2% of peak traffic yet gets whole stretches of road dedicated to it for free. They should scrap all the bus and cycle lanes so that the roads become wide enough so cars can overtake cycles without it being a big deal. And not expect cycles to just be in certain places. I've lost count of the number of car drivers (and road builders) who have told me (not entirely unreasonably) to get in the cycle lane.
I'd scrap the ASLs as well. I don't believe in discrimination.
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• #740
Do cycle training teach these things? I took a lesson a couple years back but we never got to talking about signage :O
When I was asked about the bus lane, my respond is yes, you can use it, unless it stated that bicycle's not allowed, of which is quite rare (AFAIK, my journey is from Condor to Condor).
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• #741
I'd scrap the ASLs as well. I don't believe in discrimination.
I wholeheartly agree, however we've already reach to the point of no return.
if such scheme did go ahead, then people will start thinking that cycling on the road is not advisable, especially to the drivers.
I'd says rework them, rather than ditch them entirely, removed the bicycle lane and put bicycle sharrow instead, it's cheaper, you can put it on any road regardless of the width, it doesn't tell cyclists to go near the kerbs, nor give a set lane to where a cyclists should stay in etc.
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• #742
It's all absurd though isn't it. We have got a transport system (buses) that represents 2% of peak traffic yet gets whole stretches of road dedicated to it for free.
Where did you get that stat from? Did the 0 from 20% go missing? ;)
Buses carry about 20% of journeys made in London. That's more than the Undergound or overground rail. If you're talking about the fact that there are relatively few buses, then that is only a reflection of their efficiency in carrying lots of people.
They should scrap all the bus and cycle lanes so that the roads become wide enough so cars can overtake cycles without it being a big deal.
Well, scrapping bus lanes would be a very big step backwards in transport policy. Cycle lanes are a different question.
And not expect cycles to just be in certain places. I've lost count of the number of car drivers (and road builders) who have told me (not entirely unreasonably) to get in the cycle lane.
It is and it isn't unreasonable. It is unreasonable from the point of view that there is absolutely no legal requirement for you to do so, and as a result other road users should not demand that you follow such an imaginary requirement. In many cases, the reason is of course ignorance. Bus lanes are actually a good way of explaining this to people--just ask them if they think buses have to be in bus lanes.
I'd scrap the ASLs as well. I don't believe in discrimination.
I don't think that ASLs are a very useful feature, either. I think that there are some absurdities in their concept. Several of these could be fixed, but there is no imminent prospect of that happening, I think.
Why do you think that ASLs are discriminatory?
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• #743
Probably because it give the illusion that a road user using a bicycle have first priority over everyone at traffic light - not exactly the message that should be portray (all road user share the road regardless of whether it's a car, bicycle or pogo stick).
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• #744
He wasn't asking you, Ed.
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• #745
Go make custard Will.
euph?
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• #746
Old Street opposite LMNH's now - Be careful!
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• #747
I'd recommend stopping at these lights anyway, as it's:
a very built-up residential area with high levels of pedestrian traffic
notoriously bad for poor junction/lane discipline from road users
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• #748
Heads up.
I just got done by police Issuing RLJ tickets on the corner of cheapside and King St/Queen St. -
• #749
Cycling the wrong way down a one way street in Dalston the other day, two police officers cycled right past me from the correct direction, one even gave me a friendly smile when I looked at him... Was I actually in the wrong?
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• #750
A couple of motorbike cops on the Corner of the Cut/Waterloo Bridge Road this morning. Ticked me off for RLJ-ing. Ironically had stopped at lights before going through and for some reason didn't notice the two of them, in clear sight wearing high viz. They actually let me off the fine, they asked me why I went through and I said it was safer for me than waiting with the motorbikes and busses - their reply - "Your fault if you get hit" which I'm happy with!
i suppose i meant a list somewhere in this/another thread!