• You miss-read the post you quoted.
    Ivan post said "if a car pulls out in front of you without looking"
    In which case your point is meaningless.

    I like also how you think that a driver might be somehow more 'humane' if you're not wearing helmet, this is bonkers! I ride with & without a helmet depending on whims. There are good drivers and bad drivers, what i wear makes sod all difference to them in my experience.

    He said the car didn't look, I said the driver might have seen.
    Mis read fail

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