• There is a good thread on "shudder" Bike Radar about these Chinese carbon frames, including Dave from Planet X explaining how things work for them. My understanding is that frames like the Willier above, and the most of the Planet X range are designed and built by the Chinese manufacturers and have been picked up by companies like Planet X and Ribble for re-branding and importation, so they aren't copies of Williers etc. These same factories also make frames for other big bike companies, the differnce being these frames are designed in-house by the big bike companies. Dave explains that frames like their Exocet TT bike and new carbon mtbs are their own in-house design, manufactured by the same chinese factory that makes and designs their other frames, and I assume that these frames won't be popping up on ebay.

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