How tight do I need my lock ring to be?

are you sure it's a fixed hub and not free - does it have reverse thread for lockring?

Put a 1mm spacer between the sprocket and the lockring.

Put a sprocket between the 1mm spacer and the lockring...

Try another hub.

Yes, the locking threads on backwards. I There is a freewheel thread on the other side. It is a track hub, and wheelset. And the lockring came with the set. I wouldn't know how to recognise if it was not the correct one to be honest.

I am thinking at this point a better quality tool is the answer, or maybe I could try the hammer and screwdriver technique, but I don't know if I would get it tight enough like that. Would I be able to give it enough "fucking beans" or would I do some damage.

I tightened my lockring with a spoon and it's never slipped....try that, try a spoon

Tea, soup, dessert or table?

Tea of course

i'll cut your heart out with a spoon.

hammer and screwdriver is one way to snap a lockring....

true story. another new lockring cost half of what the tool would've.

I hate lockrings. They always make me hurt my knuckles. Them and those Randonneurs of yours.

I tighten my lockring with a hammer and screwdriver, it comes looses after every ride that lasts more than 10min. (no monies for a proper tool though) Any better homebrew methods to tighten it?

don't go the pub one night and spend a tenner on a proper lockring tool.

Just bought myself one of these after repeatedly having to borrow lockring tools http://www.pedros.com/trixie.html

I used a hammer and screwdriver about 14 months ago and everthing is still fine. I did give it some beans mind, and no part of my transmission is made by miche...

Clamp the sprocket flat in a bench vice, spin the hib/wheel it, tighten a lot from the rim. Take out, put on lock ring, then clamp lockring flat in the vice, again turn the whole wheel to tighten.
That will gt it about as tight as you can without breaking anything.

(To ensure you really have got it as tight as possible without breaking anything, tighten until something breaks, then back it off just a bit - that will be the maximum point)

ill grab my big hammer and give it another go, if it doesnt work ill have to wait a little longer to get my new frame...

^You're doing this now?! I bet your neighbours love you...

Ha! I've just only finished using a hammer/screwdriver tool option against a BLB lockring. It didn't barge. Not sure what happened there, as I've managed to damage two cheap hinged lockring tools on it. Looks like it was glued on (and the sprocket is bent too).

the hammer/old screwdriver method does have its uses! I managed to remove an absolutely Mullered malliard (see what I did there?) 5spd block with the method within seconds, yet using a proper fitting tool on a 10" wrench wouldn't give it to move anywhere. The impact of it was probably what got it moving.

Putting it in a vice is about as much force as you can exert on it before something breaks. Over the years I've helped destroy/actually destroyed/heard of others destroying wheels trying to remove old freewheels/ old freehub bearings and cogs by putting them in a vice and twisting to the point of spoke breakage, flange distortion and in one brilliant case (cheap town bike wheel) the actual threaded area of the hub casing ripped/ twisted off the main part of the hub body*

*I bet the guy that did it thought he had finally cracked it, and then when he lifted the wheel away from the vice and found part of the hub still connected to the vice, probably uttered some expletives.

I tighten my lockring with a hammer and screwdriver, it comes looses after every ride that lasts more than 10min. (no monies for a proper tool though) Any better homebrew methods to tighten it?

Go to a bike shop and ask them very nicely if they could tighten it?
Find a nice friend group of people who also ride bikes who might have one you can borrow?

Clamp the sprocket in your teeth and then spin the wheel, problem solved. All you need is a bit of htfu or you could just buy a lockring spanner.

My shit is tight. Finally.
And I've managed to undo a lockring which was stuck.

^Thats very good value

I've just gone bit spendy on a 3rensho version of the EAI all in one track tool, but no use of 16t or bigger so track only

TIghten cog, tighten lockring... Repeat... Repeat again... Job done...