A lightweight bike would be nice

"For these rims, we do recommend higher spoke counts (e.g. 24 front, 28 rear) for riders over 55kg (120 lbs), and do not recommend them at all for riders over 85kg (190 lbs)."

Might be too fragile, those rims.

The wheels are pure guess work.
The next depth up are stronger, and still fecking light.

Klinin XR 270, laced 32 3x rear, 28 radial front maybe?

No point in having flexi wheels.

The wheels are pure guess work.
The next depth up are stronger, and still fecking light.

Klinin XR 270, laced 32 3x rear, 28 radial front maybe?

No point in having flexi wheels.

Yeah. But I still think Open Pros could a decent choice. Not too heavy, but they'd last.

open pro ceramic for longevity

last for ages, my plain open pro lasted under a year, braking surface wore out, the ceramic has been going strong for 2 years now and no real signs of ageing

open pro ceramic for longevity

last for ages, my plain open pro lasted under a year, braking surface wore out, the ceramic has been going strong for 2 years now and no real signs of ageing

I've the ceramics on the steel roadie. Chew up brake pads like a rabid, I don't know, duck, maybe, but other than that they are fantastic.

Would you happen to know which brake pads I should get? I've the Mavic SSC brakes.

Ruegamer frame
THM fork
AX Morpheus Cranks
Fibrelyte chainring
THM stem and bars
Tune speed needle saddle and post
Mack Superlights>CX Ray>20mm Carbon Tubs
Tufo S3 tires
Phil Cog
KMC SL Chain 3/32
Bar tape

Will weigh less than 3kg be fucking useless and costs more than £15k

i tend to use the shimano ceramic specific pads

have been fine

Will weigh less than 3kg be fucking useless and costs more than £15k

Sounds like a plan!

Have to wait for a big bonus, but, hey, that shit would earn me bragging rights!

i tend to use the shimano ceramic specific pads

have been fine

Thanks, man.

Yeah. But I still think Open Pros could a decent choice. Not too heavy, but they'd last.

Part of the way Klinin save weight is by having a thinner braking surface. So the Open pro will be slightly heavier, but that weight is basically in two places. More braking surface, so longer lasting, and spoke eyelets, which allow for a easier build, and a more resilient wheel.

So Open pros may be slightly heavier than some weight weenie rims, but there's not an once of fat on them.

These are a bargin though. Light carbon tubular rims from PX
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/RIPXC20MM/planet-x-20mm-carbon-rim

Ruegamer frame
THM fork
AX Morpheus Cranks
Fibrelyte chainring
THM stem and bars
Tune speed needle saddle and post
Mack Superlights>CX Ray>20mm Carbon Tubs
Tufo S3 tires
Phil Cog
KMC SL Chain 3/32
Bar tape

Will weigh less than 3kg be fucking useless and costs more than £15k

Porky arse spokes.

Pillar PST X-tra-lite titanium FTW.
http://www.pillarspoke.com/product.asp?num=2&cat=1&id=14&thisValue=3&r=8627

Open pro rims are light, strong and made well. I've had the normal and the ceramic and the normal ones lasted me 6 years in London and the ceramics are going well after two years, Brake wear is what it is and it'd be unusual to be even close to them wearing out after a year although I do think the ceramic coating is possibly overrated, noticing no difference in braking, wet or dry. On both I've used standard Ultegra pads and with a decent hub, I'd recommend them without reserve. I even had one that rode for more than a year with a huge pothole ding in it. They're just great.

skipper

have you realised there are ceramic specific pads?

ceramic rims + swissstop = beauty.

swisstop greens for those who are not clear on the matter

didn't realise that actually Prancer - but just had a scout on the Swissstop site and couldn't see green ceramic for road - are they an older model?

I've probably worn off the ceramic coating anyway by now but I'd like to try 'em so got a url.....?

thanks anyway

skipper

thought the blue ones were for ceramic?
open pros are really good.

Green are wet weather. info on colour/compounds

Open pro ceramics, last for ever. I have had a pair for years, and they stay clean as you aren't wearing away the alloy when you brake.
@skipper, you can't have worn it away!
But yes yo do need the ceramic specific pads, otherwise the wet weather braking is non existent.

Doh

It's koolstop green for ceramic.

Hangs head in shame.

I'd have negged you, but i was scared.

with Swisstop its blue for ceramic

my nerg is as toothless as my bite, veloccio has killed my ability

That's cool so thanks all for the advice. I'll give 'em a go. Either way Open Pro are p'raps my favourite rims and @skunkworks, got myself a Principia Track Jet frame as well in the end. Waiting to build it up too but got some Time forks and Time seatpost, deda pista bars, newton stem, SMP composit saddle......getting there, getting there...............Principia in the heyday are just the finest alu frames made methinks.

Maybe look at Kin Lin/ IRD rims for stiff, lightweight wheels that are affordable. There is an importer in the uk that I listed in another thread.(Their 30mm deep section carries a small weight penalty).