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Agree...
In Skydancer's first post he says, "disagreement around this issue between cycle trainers, road engineers and other parties".
I just wonder what there can be to dissagree about? What else is there for us to do? The pavement? Anyway, in London it's just too dynamic. I don't tell trainees that there is a "default" position, as such. I prefer to show them how to determine where to be in any situation so they have to keep thinking.