Alien and Aliens are both excellent films. Its the rubbish sequels that followed these movies is what I take issue with. They could have made some excellent movies, but the studios really messed things up. First there were many re-writes due to director changes and actor changes. Renny Harlin started on Alien 3, but left during the pre-production stages. Then they went through a couple of people before they settled on Fincher. It was his first movie, he quit after filming completed. The studio got someone else to edit it together. Fincher has totally disowned Alien3 as being his work, he cites studio interference as being the culprit. (See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103644/trivia)
The script which Fincher started Alien 3 was set on a monastery colony. With just Ripley's and Bishop's pods arriving on the planet. (Hicks and Newts pods were meant to drift into space, for Alien 4). The rest of the film was pretty much how things turned out though there were some key scenes that were shot, but then left totally out of the movie.
As for Resurrection the original concept was Hicks and Newt capsules get picked up some years later, by a USMC Military Research Station where a General has an Alien Queen in captivity. They are breeding Aliens to use as weapons. His plan is to some how control the Aliens using fire. This obviously goes wrong. I'm guessing what was supposed to happen was more akin to a cross between Alien and Aliens on a space station. I still can't explain WTF happened in Alien 4.
The first AvP film was total crap, the second one Requiem was pretty good. Possibly influenced by the Earth War comics in some way. Scott is now working on an Alien prequel, I'm hoping it at least turns out to be watchable, and Russell Crowe isn't in it.
Alien and Aliens are both excellent films. Its the rubbish sequels that followed these movies is what I take issue with. They could have made some excellent movies, but the studios really messed things up. First there were many re-writes due to director changes and actor changes. Renny Harlin started on Alien 3, but left during the pre-production stages. Then they went through a couple of people before they settled on Fincher. It was his first movie, he quit after filming completed. The studio got someone else to edit it together. Fincher has totally disowned Alien3 as being his work, he cites studio interference as being the culprit. (See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103644/trivia)
The script which Fincher started Alien 3 was set on a monastery colony. With just Ripley's and Bishop's pods arriving on the planet. (Hicks and Newts pods were meant to drift into space, for Alien 4). The rest of the film was pretty much how things turned out though there were some key scenes that were shot, but then left totally out of the movie.
As for Resurrection the original concept was Hicks and Newt capsules get picked up some years later, by a USMC Military Research Station where a General has an Alien Queen in captivity. They are breeding Aliens to use as weapons. His plan is to some how control the Aliens using fire. This obviously goes wrong. I'm guessing what was supposed to happen was more akin to a cross between Alien and Aliens on a space station. I still can't explain WTF happened in Alien 4.
Alien 4 was also meant to setup the story so that the Earth War series could me turned into movies. (http://www.jokerdesigns.com/alienhost/comics/index.html#2)
The first AvP film was total crap, the second one Requiem was pretty good. Possibly influenced by the Earth War comics in some way. Scott is now working on an Alien prequel, I'm hoping it at least turns out to be watchable, and Russell Crowe isn't in it.