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  • And of course I broadly agree with you- however the point I am trying to make is that a blanket hatred of cars (even if merely perceived rather than real) works against cyclists with the majority of the public.

    I think a blanket 20 mph limit would be ignored- just as it is in Lewisham right now.

    If the figures/report you referenced include Lewisham then their findings are meaningless, as they are based on a reduction in accidents on a road (taking the road that the Sainsbury is on as an example) that people do 40 mph down day in day out.

    Have a look at some of the wildy unhinged statements that members of this forum have made about critical mass and it's merits.

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