• apologies -particularly to Schnell

    have had mad few days - still not got around to the stand over height measurement - it's up in the loft tucked away.

    it's gone on ebay now ( i'll try to get stand over up on there.) as i set it up on scheduled listing before even mentioning here - sorry i guess i'll have to let it run there now- very tight on actual cash after the winter bargain hunting but i've tons of bits i have to sell definitively and ASAP- for living expenses plus to fund another unholy buying mission at the velodrome jumble in a few days

    p.s.
    from what i understand CX bikes don't make good tourers -aside from the lack of fixing points - they'll be a tight and compact racing geometry and will get uncomfortable on long rides and twitchy with loads on . the only real (and misleading) commonality is the clearance for wide tyres.

    Yeah cheers, no problem at all, I thought it'd be something like that. I was looking through your other ton of stuff on the 'bay too, some nice frames and bits. At the moment I've got an offer of a Jackson world tour frameset on the ctc forum, very nice, very pricey, and I'm trying to organise collection/delivery, so that'll hopefully work out and I'll be sorted.

    edit: Yep that's why I'm trying to stay away from cross frames, I've toured on one before and fully loaded it was very unstable, the wheelbase wasn't nearly long enough so anything that required taking my hands off the bars felt wobbly as did standing on the pedals, it felt like the bike was wagging it's tail the whole time.

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