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Actually I don't think there is a law that signs can't lie, at least there isn't in England. Next door to where I work there is a roman wall with a door way in it which basically means it's a right of way. The hotel who's grounds you have to walk through don't like this so they've put up "this is not a right of way, and may be closed" signs. This is a lie, but as long as they don't lock the gates at either end of the walk way (at least if they don't do it for long enough for a court order) then it doesn't matter and it probably lessons the traffic (non motorised) through their grounds.
Just because there's a door it doesn't mean it's officially a public right of way.
The sign is normally there in case someone tries to get it made a public right of way in the future based on convention. -
Took this back in Austin, TX. Pretty easy to get your bike taken from under you there, friend of a friend was riding his bmx home from work at 2am and got knocked off by a car, when he woke up the bmx and his wallet was gone, thinks they hit him to rob him.
Anyway, I guess these thieves really wanted this hub.
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Actually I don't think there is a law that signs can't lie, at least there isn't in England. Next door to where I work there is a roman wall with a door way in it which basically means it's a right of way. The hotel who's grounds you have to walk through don't like this so they've put up "this is not a right of way, and may be closed" signs. This is a lie, but as long as they don't lock the gates at either end of the walk way (at least if they don't do it for long enough for a court order) then it doesn't matter and it probably lessons the traffic (non motorised) through their grounds.
Im thinking in particular about signs that say 'bikes will be removed'. If your bike is illegally taken by the business owner you could nail them for it, so Im guessing that it isn't illegal. I am not a lawyer, though.
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unless of course it is a completely idle threat every time.
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The other day in Hyde Park, right next to the Winter Wonderland.
beautfiul photo.
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Im thinking in particular about signs that say 'bikes will be removed'. If your bike is illegally taken by the business owner you could nail them for it, so Im guessing that it isn't illegal. I am not a lawyer, though.
If you lock your bike up on private property, the owner can cut the lock and remove it without warning. There is a van which drives around canary wharf all day removing bikes which have been attached to railings and stuff. The bikes get donated to a charity which dismantles them and sells them to raise money for bikes in the developing world. It's totally legal and there's nothing you can do about it, as long as there are signs up somewhere which say something along the lines of "bicycles attached to these railings will be removed" then the attitude of the law is "you had fair warning, tough shit".
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i have a seething rage against companies that don't have bike racks (come on, not even one?!) just outside their building entrance. i don't know if i've missing something obvious. surely companies that don't have loading bays could either just have one u rack, or a little clip on their wall or something saying "bikes locked here longer than 15 minutes will be removed".
raaaagggggggggeeeeeeee!
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If you lock your bike up on private property, the owner can cut the lock and remove it without warning. There is a van which drives around canary wharf all day removing bikes which have been attached to railings and stuff. The bikes get donated to a charity which dismantles them and sells them to raise money for bikes in the developing world. It's totally legal and there's nothing you can do about it, as long as there are signs up somewhere which say something along the lines of "bicycles attached to these railings will be removed" then the attitude of the law is "you had fair warning, tough shit".
They have to return it if you ask for it back. They have the right to remove the bike, but not to regard it as theirs. They are charge a reasonable fee for "admin" however.
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If you lock your bike up on private property, the owner can cut the lock and remove it without warning. There is a van which drives around canary wharf all day removing bikes which have been attached to railings and stuff. The bikes get donated to a charity which dismantles them and sells them to raise money for bikes in the developing world. It's totally legal and there's nothing you can do about it, as long as there are signs up somewhere which say something along the lines of "bicycles attached to these railings will be removed" then the attitude of the law is "you had fair warning, tough shit".
I've often wanted to take an old knackered bike and weld it to something in such an area (particually one that doesn't have bike racks). Then see how long it takes them to remove that.
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Hacksaw. About two minutes.
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i have a seething rage against companies that don't have bike racks (come on, not even one?!) just outside their building entrance. i don't know if i've missing something obvious. surely companies that don't have loading bays could either just have one u rack, or a little clip on their wall or something saying "bikes locked here longer than 15 minutes will be removed".
raaaagggggggggeeeeeeee!
It's quite rare that companies own the space in front of their buildings. Pavement is usually owned by the local council.
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It's quite rare that companies own the space in front of their buildings. Pavement is usually owned by the local council.
thus why i suggested rings on the building itself. i just don't get the logic of almost every business in london using a service and making it difficult for that service to happen.
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Actually I don't think there is a law that signs can't lie, at least there isn't in England. Next door to where I work there is a roman wall with a door way in it which basically means it's a right of way. The hotel who's grounds you have to walk through don't like this so they've put up "this is not a right of way, and may be closed" signs. This is a lie, but as long as they don't lock the gates at either end of the walk way (at least if they don't do it for long enough for a court order) then it doesn't matter and it probably lessons the traffic (non motorised) through their grounds.