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  • No. Not the LibDems; a few of the LibDem leaders, secretly, without consulting the MPs who they knew were now campaigning on promises their leader had no intention of keeping.

    I think he had every intention of delivering what he said he would deliver - which would be that a Lib Dem government would abolish tuition fees.

    They could have decided this was one policy they were not prepared to compromise on; whether or not they were right to is another matter.

    Agreed, this seems to me (a non-politician not privy to the machinations of the behind the scenes dealings) to be at least an option, but from what I can work out it didn't happen that way, I can't tell you the reason - but I am not as yet sold on the idea (so far the only idea forwarded) that this was done because they could do it and/or they wanted 'power'.

    Also I am going to have to keep the idea that they could have decided this was one policy they were not prepared to compromise in the possible box - perhaps they didn't have this choice ?

    So why would you not single out Clegg for your anger?

    Because the whole issue is much more complex, more nuanced than the black and white, us or them, effigy burning side-taking absolutism doing the rounds.

    Also, when you say "People need to be realistic" isn't that one of those debating tactics you normally deplore?

    No.

    Realistic in this case being whatever* you* decide it is?

    No, I think we should all try as best as we can to take a rational look at these kinds of issues, the temptation, as far as I can see it, is for people to quickly take sides even before they have even looked which way they are running.

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