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andy.w, I bet your 'cracked&smashed' beater will get from A to B while your £2k frame with a crack in it wont... ;-)
If you compare these phone like that it mean you dont know much about them.
I would rather think steel italian frame against your carbon - steel is maybe not as shiny nor light but even best bike in the world wont help you is you are a crap cyclist.
Fox, you are right - wrong place. but couldnt resist.
Didnt mean to spoil the sale. Sorry.
Oh dear...
'they' do the same, though.
mattty, good luck with the sale. I hope we brought more attention to the thread and folks will check now how are these toys are different and why to pay more for yours. :)