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  • The straw man is the "They are not horrible little greedy monsters that should shut up and do what they're told." line.

    I don't think peppering the conversation with this kind of stuff really helps when no one has said anything of the sort, it just kind of colours things in badly.

    You misunderstood me. That had nothing to do with you and everything to do with my original point. It was a response to Vinylvillain, who initiated the whole conversation with this:

    I think if the student leaders had condemned the violence, they would have retained a lot more public sympathy. Everyone is getting hit by cuts at the moment, yet you dont see people lobbing bricks at the police, smashing up public buildings and defacing national monuments.

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