Stop the Cuts - National Demonstration

What about a health service? What if we now told people they had to pay a comparable x over a period of time, subject to all the caveats of ability to pay etc, for a health service. Of course, they might choose not to, but then they might not have all the opportunities in life that they might have hoped for. Would people take to the streets then?

I think you are misunderstanding my point, it's one of comparisons, it's not about my position on any particular issue, I've certainly not stated my position on the rise in tuition fees.

Is the imposition of a mandatory, non-optional and immediately payable (regardless of income) bill of 18k for no discernible reward with the threat of imprisonment for non-payment comparable to an optional fee for the education of your choice which will lead - in most cases - to a higher earning career and with a repayment scheme that most people would be forced to admit is not unreasonable, Horatio himself described the repayment scheme as "pretty great" - many** will even not have to payback anything (**estimates range from 25% to 50%).

I can't see it as a great comparison, that's all you should really read from what I have said.

It's not just about the payment, it's about expectation, what you feel you're entitled to, the promises you've been made, and the kind of society you want to live in.

No, really it's not.

My criticism of Horatio's comparison is about his comparison.

I admire you felicity with argument, Tynan, but I have no idea what you really believe.

Well you should, I have been over this quite a few times, I 'really believe' that the student fees are not like asking people to fork out 18k in the way laid out above.

"I admire you felicity with argument"

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