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terrible news so sad
It happened also in Sydney where the driver blamed the cyclists for being in his lane!
http://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/news/article/sydney-crash-driver-blames-riders-20148Why is it that some people in cars forget that they are using a vehicle that can kill? Drivers that drink, get stoned, use mobiles, break speed limits up the risk hugely yet society would prefer the the police to waste time fining RLjing and pavement cyclists.
People say cycling is dangerous. It is not. It is the drivers and their cars that are dangerous.RIP
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The driver had no licence, having been given a 6 month suspension for dangerous driving :/
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Link to the la Repubblica.it hopefully will work
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^^it's the attitude of the CPS that needs to change over here. See a recent post from the Cycling Lawyer, not to mention the £180 fine plus 6 points doled out to the Rhyl idiot.
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Sad news about the cyclists. Really sad. I feel some pity for the driver too. Perhaps I'm being too charitable, but I imagine no sane person would be able to just shrug off this, yet many otherwise sensible people do curiously dangerous things once sitting in a car. I drive stupidly sometimes.
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I don't think a 'sane person' drives dangerously whilst under suspension for dangerous driving. I know what you're saying though. To err is human.
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Awful, terrible news. RIP - thoughts and love to the families of the dead.
As for Pratini and bigtwit - sort yourselves out. This thread is no place for dick-dangling.
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Disgrace, horrible, horrible news to wake up with this morning. driving under drugs and his licence already suspended. he should get life sentence this bloody murderer.
Che riposino in pace.
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RIP to the cyclists. Made all the worse by the fact that it was so avoidable.
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sure many will focus on the driver, his nationality, his skin colour, that he was doing drugs, that he was a banned driver.
but for me those are all side or non issues. the problem is that the road and the car allowed him to drive and speed and thereby inject too much danger into our community.
if he had been a wayward pedestrian on drugs the riders would not have been killed.
it is the fact that he was in the car and speeding that killed the riders.
lets not forget that many road deaths (circa 4,000 every day) do not invlove drugs etc.
in some ways the driver is also a victim (of motoring policies and culture). but i think he is absolutely awful and should be punished.
but i also think the the car makers, the road builders and the road policy makers should be in the dock along with him. imo they also have a case to answer.
the politicans really need to get a grip on road policy and driving culture. it is an anarchic free for all and we, the people, are all suffering.
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it gets worse...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-11924046
something needs to be done and sharpish, careless driving taking lives left, right and centre...soon it will be commint a murder, bung a bike under them and you'll get off...21st century and we seem to heading backwards in terms of understanding and compassion when it comes to certain aspects of our culture.
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RIP This is really sad. What scares me is the fact that could have been anyone of us, there is no way to protect yourself from a car.
Car drivers need to be taught more about cyclists during their driving tests, maybe even take some sort of cycle test if you want to drive.
I really can't see the point when drivers overtake cyclists honking their horn as if they have done something wrong. As a driver myself I always give cyclists plenty of room as I know what it feels like to be in that situation, maybe more drivers need to feel that as well.
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My argument is make all cars limited to 30mph, anywhere. Fair enough it would take you longer to get anywhere but this would force more people to walk/ride their bikes to work and or other activities.
You think how intimidated some people (not in a sexist way, women) are when there's a car behind their car revving the engines, now imagine they are on a bike, you can see why they don't want to cycle.
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Fucking tragic. RIP. My thoughts and condolences go to the friends and families. These guys were doing nothing that I wouldn't be doing on the weekend and that scares the shit out of me. Some motorists just don't realise what is at stake when they get behind the wheel and that, as an everyday cyclist, scares the shit out of me even more.
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Great post ^^^ someboody. Why on earth do we need cars that can exceed the speed limits?
Because some places do not have speed limits - Autobahns, for example, and cars are sold worldwide. Some roads have different speed limits to other roads.
It's an irrelevant question in this case because an abitrary limit would not necessarily have saved these cyclists lives. He could have ploughed into them at 30, 40,50, 60, 70 or 80, whatever the limit was, and there is every chance he could still have killed them.
The fact he was speeding is less relevant than the fact that he was banned for dangerous driving and had no business being behind the wheel.
To paraphrase somebody, most road deaths do not involve exceeding the speed limit.
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The fact he was speeding is less relevant than the fact that he was banned for dangerous driving and had no business being behind the wheel.
absolutely. The focus on 'speeding' just distracts from the main issue which is dangerous driving. 'Speeding' is much easier to police and earns money from cameras etc while improving driving standards is much more expensive, difficult and harder to justify in narrowminded cost/benefit analysis.
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It irk me sometime rotten to see the article wrote 'car' rather than 'motorists'.