Removing a fixed freewheel non_destructive

Is this at all possible or is the only way to get a fixed freewheel off the destructive way?

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/freewheel-destructive-removal

I've heard tell that HillBilly has the knowledge and Sir Digger mentioned something about the right tools.

if you hit it right, and the right way with a screwdriver sitting in the groove and a fnckoff big hammer, you can loosen it

You can get tools to remove a freewheel.

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TL408A00-Shimano+Tl-Fw40+Freewheel+Remover+2Prg.aspx?sc=FRGLUK&cc=GBP

http://www.sidcupcycles.co.uk/productdetails.asp?productid=01171

http://www.tweekscycles.com/Product.do?method=view&n=1131&g=0&p=23044&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=TweeksCycles

These are the ones that I have used before to remove freewheels before

Ah cool, thanks lynx.
I need to remove this
http://www.freemanscycles.co.uk/product2.asp?product_id=1174&pname=Single

So maybe this one then
http://www.sidcupcycles.co.uk/productdetails.asp?productid=01171

you'll probably end up cheaper if you remove that one destructively and buy a nice acs claw freewheel with 4 prongs (easy removal later on) to fit thereafter. currently claw is on sale at chainreaction for around 6 quid.

That looks like a destruct to me could you take a good pic? even with a camera phone for a definative answer...

you'll probably end up cheaper if you remove that one destructively and buy a nice acs claw freewheel with 4 prongs (easy removal later on) to fit thereafter. currently claw is on sale at chainreaction for around 6 quid.

Not 22t sadly, else we'd all have them (at polo)

That looks like a destruct to me could you take a good pic? even with a camera phone for a definative answer...

It is a destruct for sure, but I thought there is a way to still get them off?

It even says 'unscrew'!

The holes are 47mm apart so this tool isn't going to work.
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the arrow is pointing in the screw direction.

that unscrew means to unscrew the retaining plate which then allows for destructive removal. 22t, i now understand why you don't want destructive method. there are some spanners with two adjustable pins but i really doubt that can help as you tightened it very well by pedaling for quite long time

ile is correct, the holes only remove the plate

but this tool

should be ok, it will sit in the slots near the centre

as the slots are very shallow on that freewheel i suggest to secure that tool tightly the axle nut before you start undoing it to avoid damaging the slots.

as the slots are very shallow on that freewheel i suggest to secure that tool tightly the axle nut before you start undoing it to avoid damaging the slots.

+1

Also use a vice if you can.

you'll probably have to adapt a tool. best off finding a shop that has a selection then buy one and file it to fit. Use a QR or bolt through to secure teh tool against the freewheel as one slip and the tool will be minced. I learn't this the hard way thinking 'I'll just try that before I go to work' and boof, fudged it.

That tool isn't wide enough sadly. The holes must be there for a reason so it's strange there isn't a tool for it. Adapting might be the way forward then.

the holes are for a pin spanner aren't they?

so you can open it up and service the bearings? can't you do this and try to unscrew it with some molegrips and leather to protect the threads?

You need this;

edit - nelson beat me to it, don't forget they come in different thickness too, pop round to a LBS and they should have one for you to use.

reading that park tool howto, the bit you are seeing is probably just a dust cap for the bearings & pawls. It unscrews in the drive direction, therego turning it the other way would act as unthreading the freewheel from the hub BUT. I bet the cap will give out before the thing comes off the hub.
Looking at my freewheel covers (shim600 + a random campy + some cheapies) they are all metal, but I would bet they would break/shatter/twist before the thing actually came undone.

i don't understand the problem anymore. you need a suntour type two pronged tool that goes in the slots (not holes) on the rim inside the ring saying "unscrew".

Or a Park Tool FR-2 then.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/park-tool-fr2-suntour-2-peg-screw-on-freewheel-remover-prod860/?src=froogle

Can't find any specs on these for measurement.

These slots are 38mm apart and about 2mm deep. They don't look deep enough to remove it, but could be worth a try.

Wicksie, just use the prong, the mechanic took off a freewheel with those slots using the prong at work.

best thing about the prong is that it can be bend to fit whichever spacing the slots have.

Cheers Ed, will give it a go.

speaking from experience, the two prong tools are rarely man enough to loosen a freewheel if its been ridden hard. as stated above they are primarily for removing the cover to service the pawls and bearings. its the two inner slots and the perfect tool that are required, often the tool will just deform/shear the slot if you cannot clamp it in place properly with the axle.
good luck, i have failed on many occasion with this poor design, as mentioned above the ACS freewheels have a much better design if you can find the right # of teeth