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@Wrongcog
I don't think I am. There's only 3 points of contact for me to cock up. As far I can tell, the problem is that they're just too flexible. To be clear, I'm not talking the rear wing style MTB jobs but the road bike close clearance things... Any thoughts on where I might be stuffing it up appreciated, although tbh I just reckoned on them being rub! I hate any noise from my bike at all, even the shhhh of the brushes on my rims.