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  • You have to be careful relying on isolated stats taken out of context. Spin has already been applied. They were compiled for a purpose and selected to support the required conclusion.

    You'll note that the figures quoted above only show drivers killed. It's likely that this has been chosen because it provides a wider set of figures than if you include other consequences collisions.

    • They do not show people killed by drink-drivers
    • They do not show drivers seriously injured
    • They do not show other people seriously injured by drink drivers.


    The fact that these consequences have been ignored is likely to indicate that the difference between a driver at 0.2 BAC and 0.8 BAC on these three figures is little or nothing.

    You will note also that they do not show this percentage in absolute figures, nor over what time period. For example if in a year 300 sober drivers die and 900 under 0.5 BAC and 1800 at 0.8 BAC then there is a very clear case for action and Wannabe is right

    If on the other hand if in 10 year period 1 sober driver dies , 3with < 0.5 BAC and 6 with<0.8 BAC then it's clear that there's not really a problem and there is no real need to change the law and Dammit is right.

    I have no idea what these figures really are - that^ is by way of illustration how meaningless the percentage stats are when taken in isolation. The figures will be in the public domain, but I have no idea how you go about finding them.

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