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• #2
I really like James Turrell's work, good shout
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• #3
how much is it?
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• #4
clever man, James Turrell.
did anyone here get a chance to go inside that sphere?not sure what to think of the holographic thingies in the room near the entrance. but I guess he needs whatever funds he can get his hands on in order to build that Roden Crater.
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• #5
Booked in for the last Saturday to go under the sphere, the whole experience is brilliant. Gagosian a bit of a hidden secret up near kings cross, but they do have some great stuff. Shame I'll never be able to afford any of it!
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• #6
clever man, James Turrell.
did anyone here get a chance to go inside that sphere?not sure what to think of the holographic thingies in the room near the entrance. but I guess he needs whatever funds he can get his hands on in order to build that Roden Crater.
In the early 90's there were 'brain machines' available commercially, (may still be?) they had glasses and headphones, and induced brain patterns over like a 20 minute program. The one I used was very similar to the two programs available in the 'Bindu Shards', relaxing- alpha waves, and energising- active waves? It was pretty good actually. Practising meditators will be able to access some of these states.
My visit didnt include the 'Bindu Shards' but after having seen the pod whilst waiting to go in 'Dhatu', I dont feel that i missed the best part of this exhibition.
The first piece is beautiful, although I have noticed that the protection needed to keep the expensive l.e.d.s from being touched i.e the white line, precludes the viewer from experiencing the ultimate aim (for me) of seeing Turrells Light Spaces.
In 'Dhatu' I see the fullest and most complete light space realisation Turrell has ever made, a work of absolute beauty and joy. The entry is staged and limited to 5 people at once which keeps it fresh and enjoyable (as opposed to a cattlemarket queue, I hate queues), the main space is astonishingly absorbing, and after becoming accustomed to the light, panoramic. The panoramic experience of this one is amplified by the exit now becoming as much a part of the piece- looking outwards. Another new innovation.
Roden is well advanced-the world waits to find out how the bookings and management of visitors will occur. I want to go and be there.
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• #7
Did the 'sphere' this morning - quite amazing experience. once you relax and get used to the surreal nature of it, the intensity of the colours is like nothing I've ever felt, seen, colours so strong you feel you could touch them, as you relax into the experience and your eyes and brain adapt to the weirdness of it all you simply don't want it to end. Would happily have had them shove me back on the bed inside the sphere for another go. I can't imagine I'll have that much fun again this year with my clothes on. Just awesome.
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excellent ! good to hear,
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Everyone should experience the 'big un'... but as I'd seen the 'big 'un' before that was why I picked the softer light programme in the Sphere - I love the slowly changing light rather than the rave like intensity. The secret to the 'big un' is for me who you are in there with... if it's small children holding onto their parents hands in wonderment, it's great, if it's normal people it's fine.. but I could imagine it being ruined by muppets talking, rather than soaking up the light. I reckon it's the best public art thing to go experience this weekend, those who've not seen the Fiona Banner planes at Tate Britain though should do that too...especially lying underneath the harrier jump jet looking up at the nose cone... that's pretty full on... but not a patch on the JT work.
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• #10
I love the way that when you get into Turrell you cant help get all messianic about it.
First one for me was 1993 at Hayward and since then sought him out on lots of other occasions.
Where did you come across him first Big bear?
thanks for the info,
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Did anyone see his show at the Louise T Blouin institute a couple of years back. He also has a really low key but quite beautiful permanent space at Yorkshire Sculpture Park. One day I'm going to make a pilgrimage from Marfa Texas up towards California and take in Lightning Field by De Maria, Sun Tunnels by Holt, Spiral Jetty by Smithson, City Complex by Heitzer and Roden Crater. What a couple of weeks that will be!
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• #12
Indeed I did, great at dusk the exterior too. Yorkshire Deer Shelter is class on a good day, the temporary show there was superb too, cant remember the names of the works there though.
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lots of his large scale stuff in Japan, he is really popular here.
love it :D
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Only when I saw Passageways a few years ago on the tele - the whole crater work was just amazing. Had no idea really what to expect when I wandered into the Gagosian... which is an amazing space/gallery at anytime.
Don't you just love how much great art you can see for free in London Famous London... other great gallery for this sort of larger scale stuff is the Haunch of Venison opposite the forever smelly Abercrombie and Bitch store.
Question - "JT - Bill Viola honed back to the basics - discuss?!" Three sides of A4 handed in before the end of the Monday.
p.s. I'm a panther, not a bear... bear indeed..... :-))
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oops.sorry. getting my cub scouts leaders mixed up there...
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LoL.....
Bought this for myself as a little treat the other week.... very readable...
Why Art Cannot be Taught: A Handbook for Art Students: Amazon.co.uk: James Elkins: Books
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p.s. I forgot to rave about the exit of the 'big 'un'... you're spot on watching people step out is like experiencing something from one of those space odyssey movies..... weird and wonderful...
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The nuts thing about the big space is that whilst looking forwards into infinity is awesome, turning around and gazing back into the white waiting room gives a vivid complimentary colour the likes of which I've only ever read about in colour theory books! Science in action. Beautiful. Sometimes an artist spends their waking life honing something and making it work so well that the usual critical responses are rendered redundant. Cracking show! Can't agree that it's Viola honed back to basics though. Usually I find BV to be overtly narrative and gimmicky. He's really cheesy and emotive at the best of times but pretty MTV in the context of Turrell...
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• #20
@Wrongcog..... You score a B+ for your analysis of JT vs. Viola - you would have scored an A- if you'd acknowledged the ironic narrative {eh?} in my original essay title.
In my class straight A's are only awarded if the student brings me either an apple, or breakfast in bed.
Worst thing about Viola is he's rarely shown where there's a decent chair to sit on... and his stuff can go on for ever. JT ftw.
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• #21
cant very effectively compare J.T & B.V, sorry.
much video art if we can call it that turns me right off,
Some of Bruce Naumans are enjoyable and playful however,Not sure J.T. can be compared to many other artists, the places and situations seem more like elemental to me, and the outdoor aspect often heightens that.
Dan Flavin might be considered another contemporary, although only in that he uses light and it is artificial.
I like remembering J.T.s words about trying to find absence of light, there really arent many times it is truly dark.
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• #22
... his show at the Louise T Blouin institute a couple of years back. ... Yorkshire Sculpture Park...
Yes went to the Bluoin institute one. He also had a show with three installations (Ganszfeld and two other ones) at Yorkshire Sculpture Park a few years ago. Had the whole thing to myself for hours.
Can't be compared to Viola, with a bit of a stretch you can compare him to Olafur Eliasson. I visited this thing in Beijing last June. -
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Eliasson's 'The Weather Project' imho still by miles the best use of the Turbine Hall to date, with Shibboleth and Marsyas a distant equal second.
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Which raises the question; when will the tate hand the keys to the Turbine Hall over to Turrell? I have to say I really enjoyed Nauman's sound piece in there too. Shame I missed your sarcasm Bagheera, I have to say that all things considered I did a good job not ranting at the comparison!
We're on a genre tip now though folks, so who's taken a visit to DIA Centre's new and astonishing outpost in Beacon, Upstate New York? No Turrell's, but so many who could be considered his contemporaries such as Flavin, Sandbach, Serra, Heitzer.... It's a brilliant purist environment. I loved it!
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So ... what's the deal MF? I notice that you can't book Bindhu Shards... there's still stuff to see that doesn't require booking in though right?
Please go and visit this exhibition, there are 20 days left in which you can do it.
It might seriously improve your enjoyment of life.
http://www.gagosian.com/exhibitions/2010-10-13_james-turrell/