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@reculver
last year 6 of us on a ride round surrey hit a patch of black ice at the top of a hill,all of us ended up skating on our arses down the hill.minor injuries.last february some clown washed his car on a main road(wind chill froze it no other ice on roads),i hit the patch of ice around it resulting in a broken nose, fucking great lump out of my left knee and a totally fucked up right hand.if your gonna ride in icy weather get studs on your tyres and only do it for commuting not pleasure