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@dooks
I've contemplated whether or not i'd' go though with the antequated ritual of asking the bride's father if I was going to propose... and I've come to the conclusion that I would.
If only because my GF's family are quite traditional and I think that by respecting their hopes rather than expectations on the matter it would a mean a great deal to her father, but probably even more to her mother. I think it sends the signal that you're willing to compromise your own preferences (value/beliefs are far too strong to use in relation to this subject I think) in order to respect your soon-to-be family's preferences or traditions. And I think that in doing so, that gives a level of comfort to her parents. It's sends a signal that you're willing to do the right thing for her and the wider family even if it's not necessarily something that you would ordinarily consider important... or even slightly distasteful.
Tell what does suck total balls though. Wedding speeches. Why we still stick to the tradition that no women speak at a wedding? You get the father of the bride, the groom and the (ho fucking ho) best man. The fucking bride doesn't even get to say anything! She just sits there like a passive victim while the groom's idiot friend drones on about the time he got so drunk blah blah blah. Now THAT is a stupid, out-dated frankly pretty offensive tradition. If I ever get married I will make absolutely sure that the bride's mother has as much opportunity to speak as the father and that unfortunate bride (god help her) gets as much airtime as she wants.