• Ah, but the technology behind detecting doping has increased at the same rate as the technology behind doping. To there's been a nice expensive balance there.

    That makes sense-would be nice to think that it wasn't the case though ;(

    there was a good feature in the times last weekend about the technology of bike design-anyone see it?

    I've never had a new steel frame (or carbon for that matter)- I had an alu/carbon Wilier which I liked a lot but nowhere near as much as my nago master-so much nicer to ride and its just got an aura about it which is hard to match. Sadly it may be getting jettisoned as i'm skint and will be down to one beater roadie and my fixed till i find a decent job ;(

    if buying new i've got to say I'd be going for Ti or Carbon as my primary bike then getting something high grade vintage steel as opposed to new just for the pleasure of it when i can.

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