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  • Do have a care if you spot this chap, he believes that bicycles have no place on the roads.

    Also, and bare in mind that this is only alleged:

    Cowboy builder plumber electrician
    Bad workmanship
    Rip off
    Wife beater and fraud.

  • Any more info? What happened? Where? When? How is Hippy involved in all this? Is it his car?

  • Just trying to report this chap for his driving, the police online thing would like me to report it as either pickpocketting, theft from a vehicle or a hate crime.

    Reckon hate crime is closest to "driving like a cunt"?

  • Any more info? What happened? Where? When? How is Hippy involved in all this? Is it his car?

    I just uploaded the photo for Dammit.

    My car is 15,000k away.

  • Well, that's as clear as mud then. As you were.

  • Dammit - Roadsafe has a "cycling near miss" category IIRC.

  • Peckham Rye, Southbound, just past the junction with East Dulwich Road.

    Fenella was ahead of me and moved into the primary position as the road narrowed from two lanes into one.

    Chap in the van cut me up, and then tailgated Fenella whilst shouting abuse and honking his horn.

    I seriously thought he was going to hit Fenella - he was less than a foot away from her rear wheel.

    When they were past the Bollard type thing he pulled out and overtook.

    I caught up with him and suggested that we discuss things on the pavement.

    We both left our respective vehicles and had a chat- I asked him what he would have been able to do in terms of stopping if Fenella had come off with him so close.

    He replied that he would have hit her, probably running her over.

  • Dammit, somehow you made it sound rather jolly and pleasant, can you try and add some profanity so we can understand the gravity of this particular situation please?

    p.s. glad you and Fenella's ok.

  • He replied that he would have hit her, probably running her over.

    Which is an admission to careless driving right there.

    I've long proposed that use of the horn should result in electric shocks on a exponential scale with a slowish decay.

  • Which is an admission to careless driving right there.

    I've long proposed that use of the horn should result in electric shocks on a exponential scale with a slowish decay.

    +1

    I seem to recall Clarkson saying years ago that the best safety device on any car would be to do away with seatbelts and have a 4" metal spike coming out of the centre of the steering wheel... on the basis it would focus the minds of drivers.....

    Difficult to disagree.

    (P.S. Would the numpty who bashed my bike in Old Compton Street this morning while I was enjoying a frothy cap'o'chino and a croissant like to apologise. I've now got some nasty chips in the paintwork, it's quite ruined my morning).

  • Oh, and RFN etc. appears also to be parked on the pavement.

    Just saying.

  • He mounted the pavement to park for our discussion- I caught him and blocked his further forward progress and insisted that he get out of the van to have a face to face chat.

    He became a lot more polite once out of the vehicle

  • Which is an admission to careless driving right there.

    I've long proposed that use of the horn should result in electric shocks on a exponential scale with a slowish decay.

    I use my horn alot, its to audibly indicate my presence

    Sorry to hear that hope F is alright and not shaken.

  • I think horns should be louder but only sound inside the car, so you know you've pressed it, but no one else can hear it. Ideally they wouldn't tell anyone this either, so people carried on regardless.

    IIRC parking has been decriminalised and you can actually park anywhere on the public highway, including the pavement, as long as there are no restrictions (like double yellows or reds).

  • If you have time to press a horn. You have time to slow down.
    In all my years of driving, I can't recall ever using the horn when moving.

  • If you have time to press a horn. You have time to slow down.
    In all my years of driving, I can't recall ever using the horn when moving.

    Exactly! It's going out of ones way to be outwardly aggressive at the precise point when defense should be the priority.

  • The horn is for alerting others to your presence.

    I use it a lot when driving in London, because so many drivers are not concentrating and I don't want them to cause an accident.

    There is a code at sea which you relay to other vessels if they look a bit dodgy, something like "I am not aware of your intentions" a bit like using the horn to say "oi fucknut, wake up"

    Don't think I've ever needed to use it for cyclists except perhaps when there's some serious lorry/bus/articulated vehicle undertaking going on and I don't want to witness a death.

  • I think horns should be linked to your bank account and have a charge of £1 per honk.

  • "I am not aware of your intentions"

    I have a gesticulation/expression on the bike for this.

  • I think horns should be linked to your bank account and have a charge of £1 per honk.

    I think this charge should only apply to misuse of the horn.

  • Peckham Rye, Southbound, just past the junction with East Dulwich Road.

    Fenella was ahead of me and moved into the primary position as the road narrowed from two lanes into one.

    Chap in the van cut me up, and then tailgated Fenella whilst shouting abuse and honking his horn.

    I seriously thought he was going to hit Fenella - he was less than a foot away from her rear wheel.

    When they were past the Bollard type thing he pulled out and overtook.

    I caught up with him and suggested that we discuss things on the pavement.

    We both left our respective vehicles and had a chat- I asked him what he would have been able to do in terms of stopping if Fenella had come off with him so close.

    He replied that he would have hit her, probably running her over.

    Nice work for it not escalating into a scene similar to the one outside Dark Times the other night.....
    Do you think that maybe he has thought about his actions some more as a result of your discussion, or do you think he will run over the next cyclist he sees?

  • I don't know. In a tribute to Ed I did suggest to van man that he take an hours cycle training which I would pay for in order that he experience what it is to be a cyclist.

    He declined my offer.

  • I think this charge should only apply to misuse of the horn.

    Nah, drivers would just have to get used to it. Using the horn would have to be 'worth it'.

  • On another note, something I was thinking about the other day...

    As there is no cost associated with simply being on the road apart from obtaining your bike and kit one basically has a full blown right to be on the road on one's bicycle. Sure, you could get fined maybe for "reckless riding", RLJing etc. but to my knowledge you cannot be BANNED from cycling on the road. Anyone piloting a motor vehicle has to PAY for the PRIVILEDGE to be on the road. It's a priviledge, not a right as one can be banned from driving motor vehicles or incarcerated for being caught breaking the highway code and other laws and fined/thrown in jail for not paying for the priviledge to pilot one's motor vehicle.

    Not sure any irate motorists would want to hear that though.

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