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cheers for the tips Jaw! It feels quite light but I've got no experience for comparison. serial number is 1069 so maybe its from '69? Shorter doesn't seem to exist anymore which is a shame as I would have taken it in there and got the lowdown that way. Also the front fork is drilled and it came with Campagnolo Pista cranks and bottom bracket. I'll have to take some pictures and stick em up when I have the chance.