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• #5177
ahh the good old punching people debate. clearly someone who doesnt understand sarcasm
True, I'm not the sarcastic type.
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• #5178
interesting... i've never seen/heard of this happening before.
are thieves getting cleverer?
FML.I would say so when they know how to remove cranks and bottom brackets
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• #5179
^Are you serious, Chrizzzz? It's a fairly common way to nick the bike.
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• #5180
Yes. Its an extremely common method for thieves to remove/steal a bike. Its been happening for quite some time.
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• #5181
Nice to know it can take half an hour to get through the Krypto...
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• #5182
To be honest, I am more worried about having parts nicked. I know there are various techniques to prevent it, super glue and a bb etc, but it is ridiculous to have to go to these measures!! Kingsland Rd is the worst for it.
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• #5183
• Be pushier with the police, and insist that they, or a community support officer, attends.
Maybe. A similar thing happened to me once, and the plod clearly weren’t prepared to do anything as “no crime had yet been committed”. And as Community Support Officers don’t technically have any more authority than your average man or woman in the street, it doesn’t seem to make much sense to get them involved in anything.
Best thing you can do is to call a friend with some battery powered tools and wait with your bike with a can of beer. That was more or less what the police advised me to do (minus the beer, obviously).
edit: Clearly your friend shouldn't bring "batty powered" tools as I originally suggested. Unless they've got a steatopygia.
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• #5184
mythos, different culture, like in Japan for instance, thieves were low because of the difference in law, if you got caught, the chance of you getting a trial is very small, and probably land you in jail.
Amsterdam, thieves is not much of a problem (it does exist though), as everyone and their mums have bicycles, so who are the thieves going to sell it to?
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Thieves is a problem in London, but it's not an epidemic.
Theft is a MASSIVE problem in Holland. It's no different from here....
Got to say I've never heard of a Dutch person saying there's no bike crime in A'dam. A friend of mine was offered (and bought) a bike of a junkie for 20 euros within 48hrs of being there.
As for Japan... I'm no expert, but my understanding was that alot of that is cultural. If it's not theirs why would they take it? - it just doesn't compute. The Monglols were the same back in the day. Plus there are other crimes that are more lucrative. A good eg in Europe is human trafficing. Much organised crime has shifted over to this from drugs as the chances of prosecution and sentences are lower.
Also the Japanses legal system is heavily dependent on admission of guilt. The sentences if you don't confess are pretty harsh, so allot fo people confess. This is good on the one hand, as it keeps legalsystem costs down. However, the big disadvantage is that innocent people often confess under 'police pressure' to crimes they don't commit. Whereas hardened criminals know that the chances of a successful conviction are low, so hold out.
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• #5186
Just read something interesting on my club's forum written by a clubmate's colleague. Does this happen very often, do you guys know?
Landlord at one of the pubs we went to for Easts a couple of weeks back said that there had been a few cases of people having superglue put in their locks.
Same effect, different method.
Pretty tough to defend against, I'd say.
Maybe hide around the corner with a taser and aim for the scrotal area?
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• #5187
different culture, like in Japan for instance, thieves were low
You meant short?
*racist(。-_-。)
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• #5188
Haven't you got shelf to put up Kris?
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• #5189
Just read something interesting on my club's forum written by a clubmate's colleague. Does this happen very often, do you guys know?
This happened to me 2 years ago, being nieve I just left a note on the bike saying please look out, since they may have it happen to them and make them late for work/home?
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• #5190
Amsterdam, thieves is not much of a problem
Theft is a MASSIVE problem in Holland.
Yes, Ed, your opinion was well off the reality--apparently, in 2001 the equivalent of 16% of bikes in Amsterdam were being stolen every year. This dropped to 8%, or 50,000 in 2008. It's clearly still a massive problem. Sources:
http://www.amsterdam.nl/verkeer_vervoer/fiets/fietsdiefstal/feiten_en_tips
http://www.amsterdam.nl/verkeer_vervoer/fiets/fietsdepot/algemene_tekst#WatisendoetdeAFAC
http://www.fietsberaad.nl/library/repository/bestanden/document000154.pdf -
• #5191
Yes, Ed, your opinion was well off the reality--apparently, in 2001 the equivalent of 16% of bikes in Amsterdam were being stolen every year. This dropped to 8%, or 50,000 in 2008. It's clearly still a massive problem.
May be an urban myth, but a Dutch friend said the junkies used to sell insurance. If you bought it, they wouldn't nick your bike for a year. I don't see how that's practical to implement, but I still find myself thinking it might well be true.
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• #5192
Just saw this bike locked up outside the tesco's at the highbury and islington end of holloway road
thats scrappers I think?
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• #5193
Yep that's Scrappers. Was for sale on gumtree in Peckham. I guess he's sold it then.
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• #5194
I think my bike needs it's own thread now, I'm tempted to start a blog with the spotting it around the place.
I meet the girl who brought the bike last night, I had to meet my old flatmate on broadway market and I walked around the corner to lock my bike up and well there was my stolen bike and the girl...
This is what she had to say.
"I brought the bike off gumtree as I didn't want to go to brick lane and buy a stolen one"
I believe her and wasn't really fussed about that bike anyways. I told her to enjoy riding it and left it at that. It seems as she is clocking up some fair distances. -
• #5195
wow
^^^^nice sentiments scrapper
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• #5196
Aw. That's heartbreaking. What a man!
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• #5197
i bet ginger afro was cute !
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• #5198
just reading through some of these posts - a fair number of us seem to think that certain people are conspicuous simply because 'they don't look right' - anyone else troubled by this sort of language? call me on it if you think i'm being oversensitive here - just smacks a bit of daily mail-ish curtain twitchiness that i reckon none of us necessarily endorses.
//:-=)
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• #5199
Totally take your point, and it is troubling when I find myself jumping to these conclusions or hear others referring to 'chavs'.
If you see a kid from the local estate on a souped up Focus, it could be that he's well into cycling and saved up ages to buy it. However, it's depends on other things too. If he's weaving all over the place and his mates are riding a lady's shopper, a saddle-less HHSB and a Brompton you can't help but assume the worst.
So yeah... It doesn't take a genius to work out what's happened, although maybe that's the point (lazy assumptions). Innocent until proven guilty and all that...
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• #5200
Man up, Catfood. You know whe it doesn't look right, then it isn't right most of the times.
Not every chav is a thief, but then there are some you know for sure are, because they don't hide the fact.
interesting... i've never seen/heard of this happening before.
are thieves getting cleverer?
FML.