Tørm (Torm Cycling). Nice, and not pricey

So I'm confused...this guy is Jonny Lau's mate and he makes cheap cycle clothes as well as shelves?

Hang on, I thought you were JL?

;)

He is.

Oh shit... So Scott is behind this Torm stuff as well?

Yeah, that's why he gave up the bag business. He's like the Chinese copying industry but on a smaller scale.

I am?

I mean, cough, I AM!

Why couldn't they come up with their own look?

Who, Rapha or Torm?

;)

Bum him ow!

Scott not scot is archies is Jonny lau is torm?

Ffs where does he find the time to patronise on the interwebs?

Sorry James...you're not welcome here.
I left you a message elsewhere...it's ok though, I used a different name! ;]

I am just me and find it a struggle to be this much of an onion bin.

Dancing James is rapha model is self rightous cyclist is enforcer of the roads?

How does he find time to talk about himself on teh internets?

Bum him ow!

Please tell me this was meant to be 'burn him now' and you weren't narrating what you're up to at work just now?

Yeah, bad typing that... I had some hulahoops on my fingers

Scott

How would you have handled it if forum member and your ex housemate that owes you money had expressed an interest in going on your camping trip?

An off forum conversation or public barney?

Just asking.

I admit it's different but maybe you can see the similarity?

hula's all gone now :)

HA! Rapha nicked their name and logo from an incarnation of the St Raphael Racing team [when they abbreviated their name to rapha to circumvent advertising rules at the time]

not tweaked, or influenced by, a 100% copy

kind of makes any posturing about being ripped off slightly hollow IMO

Scott

How would you have handled it if forum member and your ex housemate that owes you money had expressed an interest in going on your camping trip?

An off forum conversation or public barney?

Just asking.

I admit it's different but maybe you can see the similarity?

I would have said "Sure thing"...Then taken great pleasure in sewing her tent flaps together during the night and leaving her there!

There are plenty of things i could say about how YOU handled it, bus as the appropriate thread has been closed, i won't bring it onto here too.

Clefty, I ordered Large... will wear it down when I get it :)

So ... interesting, I always did wonder how you can buy polo shirts from Ralph Lauren that are identical to Lacoste ones. They are same type materials, look the same, except one has a RL logo, the other a Lacoste one. Isn't this vaguely similar ?

Mind, I do admit that the same factory, the same cloth is a bit close to the knuckle. However, I'm sure a lot of the branded clothing out there is all mass-produced in the same place as well.

I guess the difference here is, they arn't all owned by the LVMH group, rather small independant companies. Mind, a lot of the bags shown off on here are very similar. A jersey is a jersey. If they removed the strips, would Rapha then keep moaning ? (It would look more like a black Assos then)

As per BDW, Rapha have already ripped off another company, so pot kettle black ?

By many accounts a lot of the carbon bikes are produced in one factory.

Did Rapha buy the rights to the name? I really don't know.

Clefty, I ordered Large... will wear it down when I get it :)

So ... interesting, I always did wonder how you can buy polo shirts from Ralph Lauren that are identical to Lacoste ones. They are same type materials, look the same, except one has a RL logo, the other a Lacoste one. Isn't this vaguely similar ?

Mind, I do admit that the same factory, the same cloth is a bit close to the knuckle. However, I'm sure a lot of the branded clothing out there is all mass-produced in the same place as well.

I guess the difference here is, they arn't all owned by the LVMH group, rather small independant companies. Mind, a lot of the bags shown off on here are very similar. A jersey is a jersey. If they removed the strips, would Rapha then keep moaning ? (It would look more like a black Assos then)

As per BDW, Rapha have already ripped off another company, so pot kettle black ?

I suppose it's like those cheese and onion sandwiches you get from all the suppermarket's. All made in one factory with clients logo on the packaging.

Cheese and onion in a bag?

After this week that has a new connotation

who buys cheese and onion sandwiches anyway? Fucking horrible things.

shove your cheese and an onion inside....

HA! Rapha nicked their name and logo from an incarnation of the St Raphael Racing team [when they abbreviated their name to rapha to circumvent advertising rules at the time]

not tweaked, or influenced by, a 100% copy

kind of makes any posturing about being ripped off slightly hollow IMO

Surely there is a big difference between appropriating a logo and appropriating a large swath of a product range though?

Surely there is a big difference between appropriating a logo and appropriating a large swath of a product range though?

True, and Rapha's appropriation is largely a cultural one —*which is pretty much the bread-and-butter of the design/advertising industry.