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• #2627
Bit of a super steroid for weight loss apparently. Quite big with body builders etc as it strips fat. Puts a lot of strain on the heart though according to some.
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• #2628
.
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• #2629
They might as well just give up. No-one clean has a chance of winning the Tour; I believe that Contador has even made some smarmy comments about Armstrong's alleged drug use too. It's all so handbags at dawn, it's not even funny.
They might as well just let everyone take as much/many drugs as they like. If you live, you win.
(Just realised this reads like it might be a pro-Lance post. It's not.)
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• #2630
Clenbuterol sounds alright, might get some.
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• #2631
Lance is going to go up a spot! That should cheer him up.
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• #2632
So does this mean I get money because i put a bet on Schleck winning the tour!
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• #2633
Depends. Which Schleck?
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• #2634
Paging AndyP
What have I done?
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• #2635
Chorizo group buy?
- adoubletap
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• #2636
- adoubletap
- Zed
:O
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• #2637
Chorizo group buy?
I guess it explains Rik.
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• #2638
Which bit?
Spanish chorizo is made from coarsely chopped pork and pork fat, seasoned with smoked pimentón (paprika) and salt
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• #2639
But no 'buterol... hmm..
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• #2640
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. It's there.. Just don't ask
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• #2641
I guess it explains Rik.
His meat is contaminated. Contaminated with love.
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• #2642
I'm struggling to understand what the benefit of this Clenbuterol is.
" ... It is also a non-steroidal anabolic and metabolism accelerator, through a mechanism not well understood. Its ability to increase the muscle-to-fat body ratio makes its illegal use in livestock popular to obtain leaner meats. ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clenbuterol
Huh? The fat you burn gives you extra strenght? Or is it about the asthma stuff? I remember taking asthma medicine in my teens and it made me breathe better somehow.
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• #2643
http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2010/09/30/1/bettiniphoto_0059728_1_full_600.jpg
Judging by the way Dave's physique is looking, I'm going to have a crack at the Worlds TT next year...
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• #2644
He's riding for Lampre these days...
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• #2645
Unlike us, he sticks his guts out for the cameras.
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• #2646
Bet Garmin are well fucked off with SKY all over the GB kit
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• #2647
Continuing developments... German journalist claims he already had details of the test results including presence of plasticisers used in blood bags from another test that was done.
When questioned yesterday McQuaid denied AC was under investigation then later the press release from UCI comes out.
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• #2648
Just some random numbers here; without getting into complex pharmacokinetics, an asthma patient on daily clenbuterol (not that it's much used these days, as there are better beta-2 agonists out there) should excrete about 10-150ng/ml depending on the dose (20-120µg/day) and urinary volume (0.8-2l/day). Dosing for use as a PED is about the same as the therapeutic dose for asthma, and it is not taken full time. Given this, and given that labs can obviously detect down to 0.05ng/ml, it would seem sensible for the UCI to drop it's limit substantially from the current 20ng/ml. It would be necessary to evaluate global environmental contamination to establish a proper lower limit, but it seems that PED use could yield a reading of well below 1ng/ml if the test was at the end of the "off" period of the dosing cycle.
Although clenbuterol can be used in meat production to reduce fat content, it is banned in civilised countries due to the hazard to human health from residues in meat, so you'd have to buy your food from a very dodgy source (or eat a race horse) to be exposed to it as a food contaminant. Similarly, you'd only get it in supplements if you were reckless about sourcing, since athletes subject to doping controls should studiously avoid supplements from supply chains which also handle banned substances.
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• #2649
slightly off topic, but after talking to a horse owner ages ago. horse meat for consumption are given different drugs to racing horses. so dodgy dodgy meat.
more likely he was on it to lean up, increase power to weight ratio
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• #2650
there's horse meat in chorizo.....
pukes on cock
Contador press conference : on 20th July Noval and AC had meal cooked with "Spanish meat" but Vino ate hotel meal who was other Astana rider tested that day.