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  • I hear of a bus london paris form something stupid like £25, but 16h tho

    Sounds horrible! ha! I'd rather walk.

    London-Amsterdam by whatever method you like. Train from A'dam to Karlsruhe for about €30. Sorted.

    This is looking to be the cheapest, although I haven't seen 30 euro Karlsruhe/Amsterdam tickets (cheapest I've seen is 39 on bahn.de).

    I was hoping to avoid this as it will take ALL DAY (may even need to take an overnight ferry), and it's the way we're getting from London.

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