• If that's the case, I'm glad to hear.

    Politcal capital and goodwill to cyclists seems to me limited. If 20mph is increasingly accepted, and does not require significant amounts of either, then even better. Bring it on. Though if we are indeed referring to "20 mph on all the network", surely this would take some time?

    As for getting involved, no not yet. The problem is no group I've come across is campaigning for separate infrastructure. Until I'm convinced otherwise, I'm inclined to agree with this:

    http://crapwalthamforest.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-integrationist-became.html

    Who knows, perhaps I'm just being naive though I'd prefer to think of myself as idealistic... I live in Camden by the way.

    That stuff isn't worth taking seriously. To claim that 'The Netherlands is the leading cycling nation in the world and it’s all down to segregated infrastructure.' is not even naïve. The Netherland have had more than 35 years of determined government support in all sorts of ways. There are lots of other factors, e.g. lack of car industry in the Netherlands and hence little home-grown interest in promoting motor traffic (still not particularly successful in suppressing it, only somewhat less unsuccessful, with a 42% or so modal share of car traffic). However, the single biggest factor to facilitate cycling is simply the very short average trip lengths in the Netherlands--it's still a very well-planned country. I could go on, but these people are essentially spreading misinformation owing to some kind of ideal world delusion.

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