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Primarily though, my main reason for preferring it is that it doesn't make a fucking infuriatingly annoying clicking noise every time I click a link like IE does - my mouse already does that, why the hell would I want my browser to do it too?!
This is obviously post necromancy, but there is actually a very good reason for that - accessibility. It's aimed at blind/partially-sighted users or users with mobility problems who can't work a mouse, allowing them to get the same 'click' feedback that other users would get. It can also be turned off ;)
I'm also a web developer (front-end flavoured) and I'm not really looking forward to IE9 becoming semi-mainstream because they're guaranteed to fuck up the box model somewhere for the umpteenth time. Development for IE is like death by 1000 tiny layout anomalies and I have no reason to expect their latest one to be any different.
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I'm also a web developer (front-end flavoured) and I'm not really looking forward to IE9 becoming semi-mainstream because they're guaranteed to fuck up the box model somewhere for the umpteenth time. Development for IE is like death by 1000 tiny layout anomalies and I have no reason to expect their latest one to be any different.
Lies ... Everyone poor web dev goes on about how IE6 and IE7 break the box model. It doesn't, my margin and paddings work as expected.
Most issues that I have with IE6 and IE7 are to do with "hasLayout" and double margin bugs (which are easily fixed).
We used to have a guy at work who said these problems existed ... his CSS was utter crap. Funnily enough the other 3 front end developers and myself had no problem with IE6's box model, he was eventually let-go.
The only time I have to use alternative style sheets is when the browser doesn't have the feature i.e. Alpha PNG support or inline-block. Then again I write pixel perfect CSS, so this eliminates 99% of the problems straight away.
IE8 renders pretty much everypage exactly the same as modern browsers as long as it is in standards mode (i.e. XHTML), and was the first browser to be CSS 2.1 compliant. JS interpretation is really slow, compared to the newest browser and there is very limited CSS 3.0 selector and HTML 5 support.
IE9 I have been using from developer previews, it has lighting fast page rendering, great font rendering. Very good support for HTML 5 and CSS 3.0 ... (it passes every CSS 3.0 selector test) and is as good as Chrome/Opera/Firefox. The new interface is pretty nice as well, a major improvement.
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we are still using ie fucking 6 at work! ridiculous! no tabs.
as i have local admin rights i have downloaded and ilicit copy of firefox. had to be done.
Firefox Website at my place is blocked by group policy and I am on the Web dev team.
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Nice that after 10 years they're finally deciding to use some standards..
Chrome is still faster for normal sites though IE9 thanks to its use of GPU power is quicker when it comes to animation framerates. To be expected. Chrome and FF are working on the same thing though.
http://www.taranfx.com/ie9-vs-chrome-vs-firefox-vs-operaChrome is still the most secure browser.
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I don't really know the "lingo" and "shit", but: Does anyone have issues with Chrome scrolling down outside of frames/pulling web pages up but not scrolling? For example, sometimes in Gmail I'll try to scroll down through my mails and instead of actually scrolling down, it will lift the webpage up and show a white box about a fifth the size of the screen at the bottom. (I hope that makes sense). 'tis annoying.
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This is not a bad "review" of IE9, although fairly simple, and also a comparisson with Firefox and Chrome:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/internet-explorer-9-beta-review/
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Maybe read post 108, or the 3 pages of this thread.
Didn't think Chrome OS was available yet, perhaps this is the wrong thread to ask?
More haste, less speed. Silly me, for pointing out a browser answer to a OS question. I shall now flagellate myself in penance.
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How do you get a home page button on chrome - been bugging me for ages
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stick it on a memory stick
I have admin rights on the machine, but I can't actually go to their website.
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i used to love firefox, but it has had some mayj crashing issues on my macbook lately. I love the master passowrd feature though
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Lies ... Everyone poor web dev goes on about how IE6 and IE7 break the box model. It doesn't, my margin and paddings work as expected.
The only time I have to use alternative style sheets is when the browser doesn't have the feature i.e. Alpha PNG support or inline-block. Then again I write pixel perfect CSS, so this eliminates 99% of the problems straight away.
The funny thing is that I used to say the same thing. Somewhere along the line I changed my mind, though, particularly since I started doing work on super-massive projects with a crap-ton of dependencies and weird overrides which makes the smallest updates akin to picking your way through a minefield. Perhaps "box model" is the wrong phrasing - "engine" perhaps would have been more appropriate since IE's issues aren't so easily reducable to the box model misinterpretations (which do, of course, exist but only affect a limited number of use cases).
The various afflictions of haslayout are probably my main gripe with IE, along with the occasional guillotine bug. These are particularly frustrating when they originate from mystery parts of code that you don't personally have much control over but also spring up from different triggers depending on which version of the browser you're using.
I would love to be able to sit down and write pixel-perfect CSS but I generally work with content management systems, generally written by various other companies. When one inherits lots of code, one develops headaches. I liked your aggressive assumptions about my ability, though ;)
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You may have to forgive me for my assumptions, because I have heard the same lines from poor front end developers for the extent of my career (which isn't long, however I have managed to become much better than them in my short time).
AS you have said that if you are using a ton of overrides etc, yes it will eventually fuck up. Lots of crap CSS upon crap CSS and you really can't do much other than go along with the bodges.
I have an almost guru like understanding of IE6's rendering bugs, which makes me seem like some sort of Oracle to newer front end developers ... I can look at IE6 most of the time and will tell them exactly what the problem is, by just seeing it.
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Interesting, Yes? Or No?
Or is it just Opera trying to showcase their product?
Please note, that I am not a really technical person in regard to computing, so its a genuine question.
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I really like Opera, it's fast, simple, intuitive to me and comes with most of the stuff I have to 'addon' to FF at the expense of processing and memory like adblocking, torrent client, email client, mouse gestures, spell check, syncing that works, etc.
Saying that though, on my better spec'd machine I'm finding myself using FF more and more once I've finally got it set up how I like.
Can't get on with Chrome, despite repeated attempts to get into it's knickers.
Opera Mini on my mobile generally, but the native browser on my current SE Elm isn't too bad for quick googlin'/pub quiz cheatin'.
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Playing around with Rockmelt. Seems like a Chrome clone, but with added Facebook + RSS. Nice, but a bit "meh" at the moment. Bringing Google searches up in a little floaty pane is a nice touch for quick searches though.
I'm starting to quite like it....not so good on a small (netbook)screen though. I've got a few invites if anyone needs one - not sure if it's still invite only? PM with your email addy if you want one.
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It is Lighting Fast, Got a decent interface, scrolling is as smooth as silk and renders text very well.