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Anyone ever seen a Gazelle like this?? Look quite special
Yes, I have seen it live at the sellers place. He than wasn't planning to sell because it is an unique piece, but it seems he now decided otherwise because way too big for him.
It is indeed 'quite special'. You can argue about whether it is aestheticly pleasing to look at, but special it is.
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Hi again everyone,
I am planning for a respray of my champion mondial 753-frame, and I am not sure what colour to choose, so it is up to you!It is an early model of the 753 frame, so the decals would be of the more traditional style and not the ones that were introduced in the mid-1980s.
It has had a terrible repaint already - I presume there is a chromed chainstay protector but I cannot see it because of the terrible paint. It has campagnolo dropouts though, I can see that for sure.
i have forks which unfortunately are not original, they are straight-bladed forks which I am afraid might spoil the look of the bike and i may have to change them..
What are the traditional Gazelle colours?
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Here is the mail i received from Gazelle ( a big thanxs to the always very helpful Monique Bollen) where i asked about the color range they offered back in the early and mid seventies:
"About your Pista frame from 1974, in our hand build race collection it was always possible to choose your colour, at that time it was blue, light blue, red, white, green, silver-grey, purple, gold bronze, orange and brown.
Colour codes however aren’t available, we use our own colour codes, not RAL codes, and these numbers aren’t in our collection any more. What you can do is visit a paint shop with your frameset and ask if they can trace the right colour code.
This is what we advice here also when someone wants to restore a nice Champion Mondial frameset. The white colour on your frame was called ivory white. We now use that name again, but the colour is different, because the paint now is based on water, totally different from the seventies, eighties and nineties."Regards
Reisberg
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Hhhmmmmm.. do I need another gazelle? this one's slightly bigger (fit me a bit better)...
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Is there any difference in geometry (chainstays, angles etc) between the A-frame and the AB? Also I've seen some with band on down tube levers and some with braze on gear bosses. Was this to do with the year?
Same geometry.
Just different dropouts, fork crown and some braze-ons.
A-frame has long dropouts with eyelets, AB short fropouts without eyelets.
Whole geometry incl chain stay length is the same.
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What are the traditional Gazelle colours?
Use the colour schema of Akema's frame pictured above: ivory 81 with baikal blue 68 panels.
That's the former Gazelle team frame.Alternative: plain ivory 81, champagne 86, Brusselsblauw 04, Gazelle blauw 15 (perhaps with seat tube panel Ivory 81 = newer Gazelle team colour), silver 47 with 2 panels baikal blue 68, Amstel red 70 (perhaps with white 69 seat tube panel = Amstel Bier team colour)
Or look at the older Gazelle catalogues or this one
@ Reisberg: if you ever contact Monique again, send my regards to here and to husband Peter.
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Same geometry.
Just different dropouts, fork crown and some braze-ons.
A-frame has long dropouts with eyelets, AB short fropouts without eyelets.
Whole geometry incl chain stay length is the same.
During the years, the front forks and height of brake bridge have been changed to accomodate piccolo brakes.What about brake drop? This ones is using Mafac Racers.
http://fivenineclimber.com/bikes/gazelle/my_dutch/my_champion_mondy1.htm
I'm assuming the A-Frame would be around 50ish?
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Looks like it's late 1980's (newer fork crown, but older brake bridge).
In the 1st pic (same frame???) it has Campagnolo or similar sidepull brakes, so my guess is 363/365mm (or so) from wheel centre to brake bolt centre.I think the size is before the change to piccolo brake arches (359mm, later 356mm).
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nice super aa lo pro / time trial frame on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Gazelle-CHAMPION-MONDIAL-TT-frameset-531C-/130418475048?pt=Road_Bikes -
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200507879680&ssPage
Just bought this. Seems like a good deal even though its a Trim Throphy. Still need some reassurance.
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Saw a nice ad on Marktplaats the other day.
Seller of a Gazelle claimed that Joop Zoetemelk won the Tour de France on a bike like that.
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Frames and forks of Tour de l'Avenir and Trim Trophy (late called Formula) are identical: 3 main tubes Reynolds 531 plain gauge, forks and stays "PB" steel, cheaper (shorter points) lugs, BB shell, fork crown, dropouts, less braze-ons.
Only difference is decals.
Also Race Trophy is the same, except for the short dropouts without eyelets.Tour de l'Avenir is a complete OTP bike
Trim and Race Trophy just frame setsBoth brazed, painted and assembled in Gazelles lightweight devision, in the same way as the more expensive Champion Mondial (full 531 and higher) series.
The one pictures seems to be an older model. I guess a repainted model. As far as I can remember, the first series were not available in white 67.
It's an older model, because of the 3 brake cable guides on top of the t/t. Not the 2 cable stoppers as on the later models.
Besides the cable guides, also the geometry of the frame is a bit different.
The older frames have a geometry more like the "race" models of the big factory (Tour de France, Vuelta, ...) with lower BB-shell and some other differences.
Newer frames have Champion Mondial raing geometry.Enough ?
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adaplace -
you've got yourself an absolute BBBBBAAAAARRRRGGGGAAAAIIIIINNN
the frameset alone would be worth 60GBP
well done sir
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I like the gangway.
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nice super aa lo pro / time trial frame on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Gazelle-CHAMPION-MONDIAL-TT-frameset-531C-/130418475048?pt=Road_BikesFRame has been re listed
AA Super Lo pro -
my third gazelle a 100th anniversary model in very nice condition with athena gruppo all nice and shiny
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45408566@N05/4973921802/
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