I'm fasting today

couldnt care less

See! Racism !

i'm alive - and i realise it might be bollocks but i want to give it a go.
am experiencing a slight headache at the moment.

the headache is just your organs saying thank you for the rest you're giving them.. it's all natural.

: D

I felt crap today, but I had egg, beans, chips, a veggie burger and a coke and now I feel much better.

Giving the organs a workout you see.

trying to quit smoking and as a result i have eaten all foods in the vicinity.

I dun a poo

Heavens to Mergatroyd - Why does this thread exist?

I've been busy. Merging this with the Food thread would be quite funny in my little world..

Banana flapjacks, I'm making them, now.

I'm slowing today
.

I've eaten choc brownies from the market yesterday, bought a walnut slice thing from the Polish festival in Ealing, had some coffee, had a beer, bad bigos for lunch at the Polish festival, ate a banana after some toast for brekkie. This was after last night's drinking and kebab.

I ate them all fast so my organs are rested.

hippy's only here to find out more about this urban myth called fasting
he doesn't believe it exists
and he's never seen it with his own eyes ( stomach )

Definately rests ***all ***the internal systems,

All of the interal systems?

Are you sure about that.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that this is complete and utter gobshite.

Firstly there are a number of biological systems in the body that are not dependent on or involved in the ingestion, decomposition, distribution, and ejection of food stuffs. For instance, there is the system that excises oxygen from air in the lungs and integrates into the blood stream for distribution to vital organs. If you're in any way unsure about this system, allow me to be the first to ensure you that this is not an internal system that should take a break.

Secondly, whilst fasting will offer some internal systems a break, it simply means that your body will move over to those that access bodily reserves. Therefore you are still running a similar level of internal systems. A change may be as good as a break but it really isn't the same thing.

I'm all in favour of detoxification and good body management, but looking at it from a biological point of view, it should be done holistically. That would be to act in tune with the internal systems rather than contrary to them. Perhaps an analogy is in order here. The body is ostensibly a machine, in a simplistic sense not wholly unlike a bicycle. It takes in energy in order to produce action. If your bicycle seems to be running badly, a cure for this would not be to stop using it for a while and then jump back on it again. It requires a degree of corrective action. Fasting isn't corrective action, it's deprivatory action. Also, what will happen after the fast? If you're going to return to using these internal systems the same way that you have before the fast, then what will you achieve. As mentioned above, fasting encourages use of alternative systems. If your lifestyle isn't healthy, then the reserves that these alternative system access are likely to be as toxic the very lifestyle that you're going to be fasting from. As I said, detoxification needs to be done holistically. That involves time and commitment. A fast will offer little more than a fleeting placebo effect.

As for Craig Sams, by what form of authority does he give out nutritional advice? He has a BSc in Economics, which hardly seems relevant. He has written extensively about macrobiotics, but offers no qualification or other evidence of education by which to back this up. This usually means that there isn't any. Believe him if you will, but it would seem wise to look at the matter in greater depth. "Giving your internal systems a break" hardly stands up as good scientific reasoning. The body is a physical, operational organism, good, credible and reasoned science should be your guide in good body management.

I've fasted.

From Breakfast at 9am to Morning Tea at 10.30am.

Worst 90min of my life..

And thank you for giving me a good excuse for a rant, this is an internal system that never seems to want to rest.

And thank you for giving me a good excuse for a rant, this is an internal system that never seems to want to rest.

sorry for making you cross

I'm surprised you have the energy to type

The Sams is a hero in Germany.

And it definitely doesn't like fasting.

This is the book is it not?

The Little Food Book: An Explosive Account of the Food We Eat Today Alastair Sawday's Fragile Earth: Amazon.co.uk: Craig Sams: Books

I was skim reading this recently, and the fasting bit was interesting (made logical sense in some ways) - I made a mental note to read the book in full sometime (and check for Bad Scienceness within it). It also discusses Microwaving, and the Energy costs of a meat heavy diet society.

I'm not sure it covers homeopathy.

This is the book is it not?

No, no, you've got it all wrong. These are the books:

@tynan,
"Agree, it's actually racist what he is doing, he's basically telling the Ramadans (or whatever that lot are called) that they shouldn't be in our country, and I am sorry I don't care what anyone says that is racist. "

superb.

@Pifko,
your lying, not six weeks ago I saw you eat a pickled egg and a packet of Mr Porkys

@Seldom,
going out on a limb is good,
"Firstly there are a number of biological systems in the body that are not dependent on or involved in the ingestion, decomposition, distribution, and ejection of food stuffs.

For instance, there is the system that excises oxygen from air in the lungs and integrates into the blood stream for distribution to vital organs. If you're in any way unsure about this system, allow me to be the first to ensure you that this is not an internal system that should take a break."

not really sure what you mean here ^^sounds like a description of respiration,is it?
if youre coupling breathing techniques with fasting, youll be as clean as a whistle.

Totally agree about it being holistic, otherwise too much of a shock.

We may have to disagree on this one anyway,
after all I also believe that several minutes standing on your head every day is totally sensible, and for me now, an indispensible part of life.

horses for courses and all that.

This is the book is it not?

The Little Food Book: An Explosive Account of the Food We Eat Today Alastair Sawday's Fragile Earth: Amazon.co.uk: Craig Sams: Books

I was skim reading this recently, and the fasting bit was interesting (made logical sense in some ways) - I made a mental note to read the book in full sometime (and check for Bad Scienceness within it). It also discusses Microwaving, and the Energy costs of a meat heavy diet society.

I'm not sure it covers homeopathy.

yes, exactly

For instance, there is the system that excises oxygen from air in the lungs and integrates into the blood stream for distribution to vital organs. If you're in any way unsure about this system, allow me to be the first to ensure you that this is not an internal system that should take a break.

Bad example. The circulatory system is well involved in the digestive process. When you eat your heart rate goes up to get more blood to the stomach area. To test this, go eat a big meal, then get straight on your bike and ride 10 miles at race effort and see how sluggish you feel.

Fasting will rest the digestive system, so place a reduced demand on the heart. There may be (probably are) other effects on the body that negate this during the fast though.

What I don't see is anyone asking how long the OP was fasting for? The book says 18 hrs to start with and to start after dinner one eve (so skip breakfast and have a late lunch basically) - as a one off or occasional activity it probably isn't worth the reaction it's brought from the forum massive.

I reckon that many of you will have done the fast described above unintentionally in the past, and are none the worse for it.

No, no, you've got it all wrong. These are the books:

I'm sure that's meant to be funny, is it not?

eat a big meal, then get straight on your bike and ride 10 miles at race effort and see the meal again

ftfy

supposed to give organs a rest

I wish the bloke next door would give his organ a rest - or use headphones.

Is carson a girl?