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  • As built up bikes maybe. As bare frames, there's just the one and it's got a hole in it. I know it's sometimes sold as a road bike, I know people will ride it on the road, but that doesn't detract from its being a proper track bike. kerley's suggestion that a Visp is not a proper track bike simply because it has a hole in it doesn't stand up to scrutiny; in the current market, a brake drilling is not an indication of the primary purpose of a frame, it's an indication that the manufacturer is wise to the foolishness of mugs who will ride completely inappropriate bikes and pay handsomely for the displeasure.

    I was in a Look dealership in Normandy (one of the biggest in France) and they had 2 built up versions on sale, one for road, and one for track.

    I see what your saying, but they told me in there that the 464 was designed knowing that a lot of potential users would take it nowhere near a velodrome, and this was backed up by the Look rep who was in the shop at the time!

    The track version was undrilled and had no idication that it could be drilled, and the road version had a factory drilled fork.

    They also came with a pretty cool cover, and this spares/build kit

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