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Sole appears stiff enough, though I put orthotic insoles in.
They are much stiffer than a pair of vans for example, though not enough to impede normal walking
I spent 3 hours wandering around at the sky ride and they felt fine
Longest rides in them to date have been a few 60 minute rides and they were fine
Would probably make a great shoe for touring as well
Not as stiff as my dominators which are not as stiff as my carbon sidi roadshoes but clearly made for a different purpose and they work very well as a casual clipless shoe.